Perparing a wing for a fan (HELP!!! )

KI49er · 07-05-2001, 03:32 AM

I'm sure there is someone on the board who has made a wing fan and I'm hopeing that I can get a few suggestions.

I have two wings(Golden Eagle)that I would like to make into fans,But both wings have dried and the feathers arn't faned out.

Is there a way to fan out the feathers after the they have dried?I would appreciate any help anyone can give me.THANKS!!!

POWWOW TIL YA DROP!!!

wyat · 07-05-2001, 09:59 AM

You could start by sending them to me. Ha

Czechy · 07-05-2001, 02:23 PM

You might have to remove each individual feather from the bone. Then you can arrange the feathers the way you want and glue/sew them together into a handle.

T Dave · 07-05-2001, 02:52 PM

In the past I have dried wings using a combination of alum and salt mixed into water. Soak the wings for a week. Take em out and open them up. Let them dry for a week and they should stay. I have done this on the same wing twice, because I wasn't happy with how it set the first time. Seems to have worked to soak it the second time. The wing was pliable, though stiff, and opened up fine. Not sure if it'll work for you, but it did for me. Might depend on how you dried it the first time, or how long it's been dried. My 2 cents.

Dave

Singing Eagle · 07-05-2001, 03:45 PM

On thing I do to keep the fan open is too put a little weight on the fan to keep the feathers spread. Be careful though - you don't want to crush them!

BeadedPony · 07-05-2001, 04:06 PM

Another way that I've seen is to run wire through the quill (low enough into the feather that it doesn't show and place large beads (Crow beads or the like) between the quills. This gives added support and keeps the feathers spread apart.

powwowbum49 · 07-06-2001, 01:50 AM

KI49er

Check the archives there is a thread that was saved and stored there that discussed several ways of doing what you want. One of the member described how to open a dried wing and how to preserve it and I discussed how and why I choose to pull the feathers and then put them back toegther to look like a wing again. It should be in general or crafts archive.

FAITH · 07-12-2001, 08:25 PM

The Person who wanted to know where my husband got his Wings!! He is registered
with fish and wild life, and recieved a bird.

Faith

KI49er · 07-24-2001, 07:03 PM

Sorry I didn't get back sooner to thank ya'll for your suggestions,I've been busy and I haven't had a chance to play on my computer.

Thanks for your help! I did have to rule out one suggestion "SORRY WYAT!!!" maybe next time LOL

THANKS AGAIN!!!

rcfrench · 07-25-2001, 02:17 PM

Wow, what an education. Most of my experiences are with fresh kills, not those previously dried. I will have to try the soaking method to see what happens.

One thing I have done to help speed the drying process is to use Borax. Once you have the wing shaped in the manner you want, you can apply the power to the bone area. It helps it dry much faster than leaving to air dry. Take care not to get too much on the feathers, though. It can be difficult to get out of the feathers sometimes...

Hope you find this helpful...
rcf

Mato Winyan · 07-26-2001, 01:44 AM

One thing I did that worked for me was, after the wing was soaked and pliable and air dried a little (where the wing is not soaking wet ) is to pin it (under wing up) to a board in the shape I wanted and let it dry again. Worked fine! :D

07-05-2001, 03:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
KI49er Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Some where in Oklahoma(I think) Posts: 7	Perparing a wing for a fan (HELP!!! ) I'm sure there is someone on the board who has made a wing fan and I'm hopeing that I can get a few suggestions. I have two wings(Golden Eagle)that I would like to make into fans,But both wings have dried and the feathers arn't faned out. Is there a way to fan out the feathers after the they have dried?I would appreciate any help anyone can give me.THANKS!!! POWWOW TIL YA DROP!!! __________________ POWWOW TIL YA DROP!!!

07-05-2001, 09:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
wyat Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 85	You could start by sending them to me. Ha __________________ One thing at a time...

07-05-2001, 02:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
T Dave Unapologetic American Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Omaha Posts: 46	In the past I have dried wings using a combination of alum and salt mixed into water. Soak the wings for a week. Take em out and open them up. Let them dry for a week and they should stay. I have done this on the same wing twice, because I wasn't happy with how it set the first time. Seems to have worked to soak it the second time. The wing was pliable, though stiff, and opened up fine. Not sure if it'll work for you, but it did for me. Might depend on how you dried it the first time, or how long it's been dried. My 2 cents. Dave __________________ Build a man a fire and you warm him for a night. Set a man on fire and you warm him for the rest of his life.

07-05-2001, 04:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
BeadedPony Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Middle America Posts: 71	Another way that I've seen is to run wire through the quill (low enough into the feather that it doesn't show and place large beads (Crow beads or the like) between the quills. This gives added support and keeps the feathers spread apart. __________________ Pony

07-06-2001, 01:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
powwowbum49 Arena Director Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: midwest, USA Posts: 810	KI49er Check the archives there is a thread that was saved and stored there that discussed several ways of doing what you want. One of the member described how to open a dried wing and how to preserve it and I discussed how and why I choose to pull the feathers and then put them back toegther to look like a wing again. It should be in general or crafts archive. __________________ PB49 "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up." Pablo Picasso My comments are based on what I have been taught and my experiences over the years I have been around the circle. They should in no way be taken as gospel truths and are merely my opinions or attempts at passing on what I have learned while still learning more.

07-05-2001, 02:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Czechy wrapped in ribbonwork! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Here....for now Posts: 784	You might have to remove each individual feather from the bone. Then you can arrange the feathers the way you want and glue/sew them together into a handle.

07-05-2001, 03:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Singing Eagle An URBAN NDN Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 2,459	On thing I do to keep the fan open is too put a little weight on the fan to keep the feathers spread. Be careful though - you don't want to crush them!

07-12-2001, 08:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
FAITH Senior Dancer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 551	The Person who wanted to know where my husband got his Wings!! He is registered with fish and wild life, and recieved a bird. Faith __________________ Trish

07-24-2001, 07:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
KI49er Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Some where in Oklahoma(I think) Posts: 7	Sorry I didn't get back sooner to thank ya'll for your suggestions,I've been busy and I haven't had a chance to play on my computer. Thanks for your help! I did have to rule out one suggestion "SORRY WYAT!!!" maybe next time LOL THANKS AGAIN!!! __________________ POWWOW TIL YA DROP!!!

07-25-2001, 02:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
rcfrench Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: VA Posts: 1	Wow, what an education. Most of my experiences are with fresh kills, not those previously dried. I will have to try the soaking method to see what happens. One thing I have done to help speed the drying process is to use Borax. Once you have the wing shaped in the manner you want, you can apply the power to the bone area. It helps it dry much faster than leaving to air dry. Take care not to get too much on the feathers, though. It can be difficult to get out of the feathers sometimes... Hope you find this helpful... rcf

07-26-2001, 01:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mato Winyan Gangster of Love Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,497 Blog Entries: 4	One thing I did that worked for me was, after the wing was soaked and pliable and air dried a little (where the wing is not soaking wet ) is to pin it (under wing up) to a board in the shape I wanted and let it dry again. Worked fine! :D __________________ "We see it as a desecration not only of a mountain but of our way of life. This is a genocidal issue to us. If they kill this mountain, they kill our way of life." ~Debra White Plume

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