Quillwork? - Page 2

OLChemist · 12-26-2006, 05:19 PM

My one and only time messing (I won't say working, what I did was not working. I see why in the old days there was a society for quillwork) with quills, I found them everywhere I went for days. My PhD advisor found one in the upolstery of a chair in the lab -- ouch. Last time I visited my grandma, I stayed in a hotel in Chadron and there were quills stuck in the carpet. I felt perfectly at home adding a layer of beads, LOL.

**FluteMaker** · 12-26-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wyo_rose

That's a good idea about clipping the quills outside. When I was quilling I found whole quills everywhere too! Especially the carpet.

As far as the termininology, I think the plaiting is where you braid the quills around the two strings. Wrapping is what you would do with a medicine wheel shape.

i havent done any wrapping yet, although i did get some medicine wheel blanks from crazy crow. i was thinking how hard could it possibly be. yeah, right.

at this point my skills with the quills is such that i still think the only thing easy about quill work is screwing it up

wyo_rose · 12-31-2006, 07:00 PM

Actually wrapping is the easiest quillwork I've tried. I got the plastic kind of medicine wheel shapes cuz the rawhide ones at Buffalo chips were so uneven.

But the first one I did, I cut out of rawhide myself and was kinda uneven, but after it was wrapped, it looked sharp.

Just slightly overlap the quills on the inner edge of the circle, and figure out how you want to cover the unwrappable parts (where the sections join) and you're off!

**FluteMaker** · 01-01-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wyo_rose

Actually wrapping is the easiest quillwork I've tried. I got the plastic kind of medicine wheel shapes cuz the rawhide ones at Buffalo chips were so uneven.

But the first one I did, I cut out of rawhide myself and was kinda uneven, but after it was wrapped, it looked sharp.

Just slightly overlap the quills on the inner edge of the circle, and figure out how you want to cover the unwrappable parts (where the sections join) and you're off!

hehehe my wife thought i was 'off' for wanting to try the quill work in the first place

wyo_rose · 01-03-2007, 07:43 PM

**FluteMaker** · 01-13-2007, 09:18 AM

ok... so in wrapping quills, how do you do the start and stop points? i have a quilled medicine wheel that was given me years ago and i cant see how it it starts and stops and im not going to take it apart to find out

Jon · 01-16-2007, 10:54 AM

When wrapping quills on medicine wheels I started in the center. Use thinner quills, fat ones will cover lots of areas quickly but.... are hard to manage especially on a wheel. I honestly only have done a few wheels, most my wrapping is done on rawhide pieces. I prefer to do banded quillwork on leather.

wyo_rose · 01-18-2007, 01:16 PM

Starting and stopping is pretty easy. To start you make a wrap, twist the ends together and then make another wrap covering the blunt end. Leaving about 1/4" of the blunt end to wrap over is usually sufficient.

To end you just tuck your pointy end back under the last several rows. I have tried to end by wrapping back around the last row, then tucking.

To start a medicine wheel, what I did was to bend about 4 quills in half and lay them over the outer edge and up one of the spokes. That covers the space that would be impossible to wrap - where the spoke meets the wheel. Then start wrapping over those quills to hold them in place.

I never covered the center of my medicine wheels, but I was thinking about making a woven X of quills in the center, then wrapping over the ends.

Dang, now I want to dig out my quills and get wrapping!

Jon · 01-19-2007, 09:45 AM

I never stopped. I have been working on the door for the tipi, and new tinklers. Got the tinklers mostly done but.... gotta order Deer toes. Know anyone with about 200 or so willing to sell? Door is almost done. then on to the rosettes and ownership tabs. Winter is here.... (quilling season ya know!) If it stands still long enough, I can put quills on it.

wyo_rose · 01-22-2007, 05:50 PM

Cool! I wanna see pics!

And I'm going to design myself a quilled barrette. I never make myself anything, and I think it's about time.

Jon · 01-22-2007, 06:04 PM

I should be done this week. I do have some photos online. www.spiritoftheeagle.net One of my pages has photos. check it out drop me a line.

**FluteMaker** · 01-22-2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon

I should be done this week. I do have some photos online. www.spiritoftheeagle.net One of my pages has photos. check it out drop me a line.

i saw the photos of your set up at the elgin fine arts thingie....im from that area and i think i recognised one of the brats sitting in front of you, her mother runs the elgin historical society museum

Jon · 01-23-2007, 12:37 AM

Small world huh. Almost done with the door. I have eight small lines to do, figure about 4 hours....Then on to the next project....

Czechy · 01-23-2007, 10:37 AM

Jon you do some nice work. The cradle is especially nice.

I have tried my hand at quilling and it is a challenge, more difficult than beadwork. I think I could get things less crooked if I practiced more....

BTW, have any of you seen the completely quilled dress and legging/moccasin set that was offered on eBay a while back? Fantastic!

Jon · 01-23-2007, 12:05 PM

Thanks, I try. I didnt see the dress, dont usually do much with ebay. My next project is some rosettes for my wives 16fter. That and the ownership tab. Just waiting to get some brain tan to start it.

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01-16-2007, 10:54 AM	#27 (permalink)
Jon Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9	wrapping quills When wrapping quills on medicine wheels I started in the center. Use thinner quills, fat ones will cover lots of areas quickly but.... are hard to manage especially on a wheel. I honestly only have done a few wheels, most my wrapping is done on rawhide pieces. I prefer to do banded quillwork on leather.

01-19-2007, 09:45 AM	#29 (permalink)
Jon Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9	medicine wheels I never stopped. I have been working on the door for the tipi, and new tinklers. Got the tinklers mostly done but.... gotta order Deer toes. Know anyone with about 200 or so willing to sell? Door is almost done. then on to the rosettes and ownership tabs. Winter is here.... (quilling season ya know!) If it stands still long enough, I can put quills on it.

01-22-2007, 06:04 PM	#31 (permalink)
Jon Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9	quillwork I should be done this week. I do have some photos online. www.spiritoftheeagle.net One of my pages has photos. check it out drop me a line.

01-23-2007, 10:37 AM	#34 (permalink)
Czechy wrapped in ribbonwork! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Here....for now Posts: 784	Jon you do some nice work. The cradle is especially nice. I have tried my hand at quilling and it is a challenge, more difficult than beadwork. I think I could get things less crooked if I practiced more.... BTW, have any of you seen the completely quilled dress and legging/moccasin set that was offered on eBay a while back? Fantastic! Last edited by Czechy; 01-23-2007 at 10:38 AM. Reason: spelling

12-26-2006, 05:19 PM	#21 (permalink)
OLChemist Pow Wow Committee Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 743	My one and only time messing (I won't say working, what I did was not working. I see why in the old days there was a society for quillwork) with quills, I found them everywhere I went for days. My PhD advisor found one in the upolstery of a chair in the lab -- ouch. Last time I visited my grandma, I stayed in a hotel in Chadron and there were quills stuck in the carpet. I felt perfectly at home adding a layer of beads, LOL.

12-31-2006, 07:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,034 Blog Entries: 2	Actually wrapping is the easiest quillwork I've tried. I got the plastic kind of medicine wheel shapes cuz the rawhide ones at Buffalo chips were so uneven. But the first one I did, I cut out of rawhide myself and was kinda uneven, but after it was wrapped, it looked sharp. Just slightly overlap the quills on the inner edge of the circle, and figure out how you want to cover the unwrappable parts (where the sections join) and you're off!

01-03-2007, 07:43 PM	#25 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,034 Blog Entries: 2

01-13-2007, 09:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
FluteMaker PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: somewhere between chicago and DC, what day is it again? Posts: 2,458	ok... so in wrapping quills, how do you do the start and stop points? i have a quilled medicine wheel that was given me years ago and i cant see how it it starts and stops and im not going to take it apart to find out

01-18-2007, 01:16 PM	#28 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,034 Blog Entries: 2	Starting and stopping is pretty easy. To start you make a wrap, twist the ends together and then make another wrap covering the blunt end. Leaving about 1/4" of the blunt end to wrap over is usually sufficient. To end you just tuck your pointy end back under the last several rows. I have tried to end by wrapping back around the last row, then tucking. To start a medicine wheel, what I did was to bend about 4 quills in half and lay them over the outer edge and up one of the spokes. That covers the space that would be impossible to wrap - where the spoke meets the wheel. Then start wrapping over those quills to hold them in place. I never covered the center of my medicine wheels, but I was thinking about making a woven X of quills in the center, then wrapping over the ends. Dang, now I want to dig out my quills and get wrapping!

01-22-2007, 05:50 PM	#30 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,034 Blog Entries: 2	Cool! I wanna see pics! And I'm going to design myself a quilled barrette. I never make myself anything, and I think it's about time.

01-23-2007, 12:37 AM	#33 (permalink)
Jon Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9	Small world huh. Almost done with the door. I have eight small lines to do, figure about 4 hours....Then on to the next project....

01-23-2007, 12:05 PM	#35 (permalink)
Jon Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9	Thanks, I try. I didnt see the dress, dont usually do much with ebay. My next project is some rosettes for my wives 16fter. That and the ownership tab. Just waiting to get some brain tan to start it.