question about colors

creekfairy · 03-09-2008, 04:52 PM

Hello everyone,
I'm new here and considoring becoming more active in the culture. I am Muscogee Creek (card carrying) & Cherokee (non-card carrying)... I really don't even know how to get started honestly. I've been doing beading for over a year now my Mother-in-law taught me and I'm getting fairly good at it. My Mom's fiance is a fancy dancer and my Mom is making him all new Regalia and asked me to bead some new pieces for him so I am making him a large (5 inch) rosette that will go in the center of his bustle. Well anyways...thats another matter.
He is of a different tribal background than myself and he uses his own tribal colors. I was wondering if I wanted to get started and make my own regalia and start dancing myself what colors should I use? What is appropriate? I love the fancy shawl dancing but I'm not in a good enough physical shape being overweight and I think I'm just too old (27)... so I'm thinking about doing southern cloth... I would love to do buckskin but HOLY COW is that expensive! So anyways... should I go with traditional tribal colors for creek or cherokee but I dont even know what the traditional colors for those tribes are.... or should I just go with what I like? My Mom-in-law (who's a white woman) and I have been having a disagreement about this because she thinks its not "allowed" to use whatever colors you want and that I have to go with tribal or traditional colors... what do you all think?
Thanks so much!

dancinfancy · 03-09-2008, 08:09 PM

First off let me say your not to old to Fancy dancer, I'm 26 and I know some people that are older than me who fancy.

As for the colors, nowadays most people just do want ever colors they want. So you can go with traditional colors or you can pick something else. Or do both make one in traditional colors and one with contemperary ones, that way you can change it up.

Oh yeah, welcome to the site.

**Migiziwomen** · 03-10-2008, 12:13 AM

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**Eagle Plumes** · 03-10-2008, 12:20 AM

I agree with the ladies do you thang girl pick what colors you want, and sweetie your not too old ive seen ladies in their 60's kickin it and putting the youngins to shame! Size wise ,ive seen some goot sized ladies jammin and they had mad skillz!

creekfairy · 03-10-2008, 12:51 PM

thanks everyone..
dancinfancy, I'm just afraid I won't be able to keep up because of my bad knees and weak ankles... and I'm really overweight but to me the fancy shawl dancing is just beautiful and I would love to be apart of it... maybe I should play around with it and see if I can do it!

Migiziwomen, I know I should be ashamed for arguing with her about it but I knew I was right LOL.. she's a very crafty person and can make just about anything... she took some beading classes a few years ago and I wanted to learn so she taught me..well now she thinks she knows everything. I'm just afraid when it comes to making my Regalia that she's gonna step in and try to take over and I want to do it the way I want it..including colors!

Eagle_Plumes, Thanks so much for your input as well... I just dont want to make a fool of myself... especially since I'm a big girl.

Thanks ladies for all the warm welcomes... very much appreciated

dancinfancy · 03-10-2008, 01:03 PM

Well, you can go to walmart and get knee and ankle braces to help with support, there are alot of girls who use them. With excerise you can get your body used to the physical part of it. Just to let you in on a secret I have 2 spinial disorders and have torn the ligaments in my knee and ankle and I still can kick it. It's all about what your body is used to doing. I even went back to fancy 6 weeks after having my son. It's what you set your mind to, if you want it go have it.

BeadMan · 03-10-2008, 05:13 PM

I agree that for a modern powwow outfit, use the colors you like. But don't take my work too seriously, I'm no better than a white woman, LOL! Out of curiosity, what are Muskogee and Cherokee colors? I lived with the Cherokee for 5 years in NE Okla and learned quite a bit, but I don't recall any specific colors denoting the tribe. Care to elighten this ignorant fool?

creekfairy · 03-10-2008, 05:26 PM

from what I've been told... and I could be wrong here... because like I said... I'm kinda new to this whole thing
but as far as I know the colors of the tribe are the colors that are in their insignia...like the tribal seal... creek is green and yellow from what I understand if you go to Muscogee (Creek) Nation you can see the insignia in the top right corner... as for Cherokee
Cherokee Nation on the left hand top it shows their insignia as having red, goldish yellow and green... so who knows! LOL
I think I'm either gonna go with rainbow colors (red, purple,blue, orange, yellow and maybe some white) or my own little idea of turquoise, pink,white and silver...but who knows LOL

dancinfancy · 03-10-2008, 08:28 PM

If I'm not mistaken someone told me once that the Cherokee colors were blue, black, white, red, yellow, brown, and green. I'm not entirely sure how correct this is but that's what I was told.

BeadMan · 03-10-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dancinfancy

If I'm not mistaken someone told me once that the Cherokee colors were blue, black, white, red, yellow, brown, and green. I'm not entirely sure how correct this is but that's what I was told.

Well, orange, pink, and purple are about the only colors not included in that list, so I guess that makes sense. How could you possible make an outfit without using one of those colors? I guess you're safe no matter what. LOL!

dancinfancy · 03-11-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BeadMan

Well, orange, pink, and purple are about the only colors not included in that list, so I guess that makes sense. How could you possible make an outfit without using one of those colors? I guess you're safe no matter what. LOL!

I know right every time I make an outfit I always use purple and and/or pink. I can't imagine a fancy outfit without them.

creekfairy · 03-11-2008, 10:03 PM

you guys/gals are just awesome!
Thanks for the info!
This is what I'm gonna do... basically I'm gonna go to the fabric store and look around at what colors catch my eye... than I'll use those fabrics for the regalia... than do the beading with whatever goes with that... but pretty sure I'm gonna go with rainbow colors :)

creekfairy · 04-21-2008, 01:49 PM

and yet I changed my mind again LOL
purple,white and black... not a regular purple...more a wine purple

dancinfancy · 04-21-2008, 02:34 PM

That's what I do when I go into the fabric store I look for one color that catches my eye as my main color then look for the colors that look the best with it. I always have a design drawn out so that I know how any colors I need and can decide how I want to lay it out. That way when I get home and start cutting I know it's all going tto work. I hate having to stop working on something because a color isn't going to work or I didn't get enough of everything.

03-09-2008, 04:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
creekfairy Bead Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 83	question about colors Hello everyone, I'm new here and considoring becoming more active in the culture. I am Muscogee Creek (card carrying) & Cherokee (non-card carrying)... I really don't even know how to get started honestly. I've been doing beading for over a year now my Mother-in-law taught me and I'm getting fairly good at it. My Mom's fiance is a fancy dancer and my Mom is making him all new Regalia and asked me to bead some new pieces for him so I am making him a large (5 inch) rosette that will go in the center of his bustle. Well anyways...thats another matter. He is of a different tribal background than myself and he uses his own tribal colors. I was wondering if I wanted to get started and make my own regalia and start dancing myself what colors should I use? What is appropriate? I love the fancy shawl dancing but I'm not in a good enough physical shape being overweight and I think I'm just too old (27)... so I'm thinking about doing southern cloth... I would love to do buckskin but HOLY COW is that expensive! So anyways... should I go with traditional tribal colors for creek or cherokee but I dont even know what the traditional colors for those tribes are.... or should I just go with what I like? My Mom-in-law (who's a white woman) and I have been having a disagreement about this because she thinks its not "allowed" to use whatever colors you want and that I have to go with tribal or traditional colors... what do you all think? Thanks so much!

03-09-2008, 08:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
dancinfancy dancinfancy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 237	First off let me say your not to old to Fancy dancer, I'm 26 and I know some people that are older than me who fancy. As for the colors, nowadays most people just do want ever colors they want. So you can go with traditional colors or you can pick something else. Or do both make one in traditional colors and one with contemperary ones, that way you can change it up. Oh yeah, welcome to the site. __________________ The look on a baby's face the first time they hear the drum is priceless.......

03-10-2008, 12:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Migiziwomen PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: May 2004 Location: IN THE HEARTS OF MANY Posts: 2,355	I Think What Ever Grabs You, You Pick. I Think It Is Exciting That You Are Jumping In. One Person I Would Not Take Advice On Native Things Is A White Person, No Offense To Your Mom In Law, But Come On. Lol. Welcome To The Site, There Are Lot's Of Helpful People Here. __________________ *AYWAWAG ANISHINABEG IZH AAYAN WII WII DOOK AAGOZIYAN*

03-10-2008, 12:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
creekfairy Bead Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 83	thanks everyone.. dancinfancy, I'm just afraid I won't be able to keep up because of my bad knees and weak ankles... and I'm really overweight but to me the fancy shawl dancing is just beautiful and I would love to be apart of it... maybe I should play around with it and see if I can do it! Migiziwomen, I know I should be ashamed for arguing with her about it but I knew I was right LOL.. she's a very crafty person and can make just about anything... she took some beading classes a few years ago and I wanted to learn so she taught me..well now she thinks she knows everything. I'm just afraid when it comes to making my Regalia that she's gonna step in and try to take over and I want to do it the way I want it..including colors! Eagle_Plumes, Thanks so much for your input as well... I just dont want to make a fool of myself... especially since I'm a big girl. Thanks ladies for all the warm welcomes... very much appreciated __________________

03-10-2008, 01:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
dancinfancy dancinfancy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 237	Well, you can go to walmart and get knee and ankle braces to help with support, there are alot of girls who use them. With excerise you can get your body used to the physical part of it. Just to let you in on a secret I have 2 spinial disorders and have torn the ligaments in my knee and ankle and I still can kick it. It's all about what your body is used to doing. I even went back to fancy 6 weeks after having my son. It's what you set your mind to, if you want it go have it. __________________ The look on a baby's face the first time they hear the drum is priceless.......

03-10-2008, 12:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
Eagle Plumes Just Bead it! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: MId-West Posts: 11,491	I agree with the ladies do you thang girl pick what colors you want, and sweetie your not too old ive seen ladies in their 60's kickin it and putting the youngins to shame! Size wise ,ive seen some goot sized ladies jammin and they had mad skillz!

03-10-2008, 05:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
BeadMan Beadworker Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Northeast Iowa Posts: 410	I agree that for a modern powwow outfit, use the colors you like. But don't take my work too seriously, I'm no better than a white woman, LOL! Out of curiosity, what are Muskogee and Cherokee colors? I lived with the Cherokee for 5 years in NE Okla and learned quite a bit, but I don't recall any specific colors denoting the tribe. Care to elighten this ignorant fool?

03-10-2008, 05:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
creekfairy Bead Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 83	from what I've been told... and I could be wrong here... because like I said... I'm kinda new to this whole thing but as far as I know the colors of the tribe are the colors that are in their insignia...like the tribal seal... creek is green and yellow from what I understand if you go to Muscogee (Creek) Nation you can see the insignia in the top right corner... as for Cherokee Cherokee Nation on the left hand top it shows their insignia as having red, goldish yellow and green... so who knows! LOL I think I'm either gonna go with rainbow colors (red, purple,blue, orange, yellow and maybe some white) or my own little idea of turquoise, pink,white and silver...but who knows LOL __________________

03-10-2008, 08:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
dancinfancy dancinfancy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 237	If I'm not mistaken someone told me once that the Cherokee colors were blue, black, white, red, yellow, brown, and green. I'm not entirely sure how correct this is but that's what I was told. __________________ The look on a baby's face the first time they hear the drum is priceless.......

03-11-2008, 10:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
creekfairy Bead Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 83	you guys/gals are just awesome! Thanks for the info! This is what I'm gonna do... basically I'm gonna go to the fabric store and look around at what colors catch my eye... than I'll use those fabrics for the regalia... than do the beading with whatever goes with that... but pretty sure I'm gonna go with rainbow colors :) __________________

04-21-2008, 01:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
creekfairy Bead Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 83	and yet I changed my mind again LOL purple,white and black... not a regular purple...more a wine purple __________________

04-21-2008, 02:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
dancinfancy dancinfancy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 237	That's what I do when I go into the fabric store I look for one color that catches my eye as my main color then look for the colors that look the best with it. I always have a design drawn out so that I know how any colors I need and can decide how I want to lay it out. That way when I get home and start cutting I know it's all going tto work. I hate having to stop working on something because a color isn't going to work or I didn't get enough of everything. __________________ The look on a baby's face the first time they hear the drum is priceless.......

04-21-2008, 03:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
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