Need Info on Prarie Chicken Dancing

tsuj510 · 02-09-2005, 04:40 PM

'Siyo, folks!

My cuz wants information about Prarie Chicken dancing. He would like to find out more; specifically, the history and what Nations currently dance it, who has the right to, etc... I searched the Web and couldn't come up with too much.

Any and all info is appreciated.

Wado!

Sa Mi

WhoMe · 02-09-2005, 04:52 PM

tslag,

If you're Siksika, take tobacco to Eldon Weasel Child. He is Siksika also and has made presentations about the origin of Prairie Chicken Dance.

Or,

Give tobacco to Louis Soup, Ray Black Water or Jason Good Striker. All three of them are Kainai (Blood) from Alberta and have knowledge of the origin and history of the Prairie Chicken Dance.

whalawitsagirl · 02-09-2005, 05:05 PM

I Thought Chicken Dancers Originated From The Paific North West And Then Spread Out Toward Canada And The Plains. And There Are More Than 2 Dunk And Dive Songs But From What I Understand The Elders Have To Sing Them.

whalawitsagirl · 02-09-2005, 05:15 PM

I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT JASON GOOD STRIKER HAS TO SAY.

WhoMe · 02-09-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by whalawitsagirl

I Thought Chicken Dancers Originated From The Paific North West And Then Spread Out Toward Canada And The Plains. And There Are More Than 2 Dunk And Dive Songs But From What I Understand The Elders Have To Sing Them.

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whalaw,

The origin of the (prairie) Chicken Dance came from the prairie/plains. The round bustle dance is a similar style of dance but originated in the Pacific Northwest as you have stated. Both dance styles are similar but have different origins.

There is undoubtedly a debate on who originated the duck and dive - the Nez Perce' or Crow. Both tribes have stories as to it's origin and why they do it.

If you want to know what Jason has to say... go to the annual summer Kainai powwow in Standoff, Alberta where he emcees, and ask him? He will be located under the banner that reads "Home of the Chicken Dance."

whalawitsagirl · 02-09-2005, 07:44 PM

well i'll have to go to that then. and when is that pow-wow? i' will make it a point to go there and ask him all these questions. too bad you can't get him to answer these for himself huh! under "HOME OF THE CHICKEN DANCER" huh?

tsuj510 · 02-11-2005, 08:56 PM

I'd like to meet those gentlemen, but I live in Oakland, CA now.. Anybody got thier address-I'm kidding....

Well, thanks for the info-I'll remember those names and hopefully bump into them sometime on the powwow trail...

Thanks for the feedback-back to the drawing board, innit??

whalawitsagirl · 02-15-2005, 11:55 AM

well hey there 49 king how are you today? so i've asked some elders around here and they have informed me that yes the round bustle was started around here but it was seen by other tribes and went from here and spread out into chicken dance. what do you think oh great one?

WhoMe · 02-15-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whalawitsagirl

well hey there 49 king how are you today? so i've asked some elders around here and they have informed me that yes the round bustle was started around here but it was seen by other tribes and went from here and spread out into chicken dance. what do you think oh great one?

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Whala:

So are there lot's of prairie chickens there in the pacific northwest?

what do you think o' wise one?

whalawitsagirl · 02-15-2005, 05:17 PM

Well Not Alot But That's Because You Can;t Jsut Put On An Outfit And Say Your A Chicken Dancer Or Round Bustel You Have Ot Know The History And Meaning Behind The Various Parts Of The Outfit But That Goes With Every Tribe Right?

WhoMe · 02-15-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whalawitsagirl

Well Not Alot But That's Because You Can;t Jsut Put On An Outfit And Say Your A Chicken Dancer Or Round Bustel You Have Ot Know The History And Meaning Behind The Various Parts Of The Outfit But That Goes With Every Tribe Right?

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Sensay,

In a perfect world, this would probably be true.

But in the real world,

there are plenty of people who wear Indian dance cloths and don't know the history and meaning of why and where it began.

Is this a prerequisite to dancing?

Do you dance?

whalawitsagirl · 02-15-2005, 06:40 PM

Well That Is True But When It Comes To Certain Dance Catagories Such As Your Traditional And Grass And Fancy, Both Men And Women, Yea People Have A Tendency To Just Wear Whatever And Don't Care To Hear Or Learn The History Behind It But I Was Raised To Learn, Understand And Resect The History Behind The Items So I Can Wear It With Pride And Diginity. And Yes, I Do Dance On Occasion.

Do You Dance 49 King?

tiBBy · 02-15-2005, 06:46 PM

U two are funny!

Hey Whala...what is a 'dunk and dive'? is that like dunk n doughnuts cuz i want some..LOL...

Hey...ask shawn scabbyrobe about the prarie chicken dance...I believe the orgin of his style is plains..blackfeet...blackfoot..whatever

Then Terry Hemesah(sp) I believe that his style is 'dunk n divin' plateau orgin...

two totally different styles...both respectable in its own manner...

heard in siimnash they had an 'old style vs. contemp' chicken style thing? there is a topic for discussion...what do u think of that???

WhoMe · 02-15-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by whalawitsagirl

:638And Diginity. And Yes, I Do Dance On Occasion.

Do You Dance 49 King?

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Sure I dance.

I Pole Dance at the Red Horse Cafe!

Come check me out sometime. Bring yo' dollars!

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tiBBy,

Dunk n Divin'

02-09-2005, 04:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
tsuj510 Teen Dancer Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 420	Need Info on Prarie Chicken Dancing 'Siyo, folks! My cuz wants information about Prarie Chicken dancing. He would like to find out more; specifically, the history and what Nations currently dance it, who has the right to, etc... I searched the Web and couldn't come up with too much. Any and all info is appreciated. Wado! Sa Mi

02-09-2005, 04:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
WhoMe PauWau Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of 370 Broken Treaties Posts: 5,555	tslag, If you're Siksika, take tobacco to Eldon Weasel Child. He is Siksika also and has made presentations about the origin of Prairie Chicken Dance. Or, Give tobacco to Louis Soup, Ray Black Water or Jason Good Striker. All three of them are Kainai (Blood) from Alberta and have knowledge of the origin and history of the Prairie Chicken Dance. __________________ "Today, recognizing and respecting the origins of powwow aids in our Cultural Survival. If enough people break the rules because they are not satisfied...."We will have no culture." WhoMe

02-09-2005, 05:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
whalawitsagirl Junior Dancer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in a house Posts: 126	chicken dancers I Thought Chicken Dancers Originated From The Paific North West And Then Spread Out Toward Canada And The Plains. And There Are More Than 2 Dunk And Dive Songs But From What I Understand The Elders Have To Sing Them.

02-09-2005, 05:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
whalawitsagirl Junior Dancer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in a house Posts: 126	I Like To Hear Words From ... I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT JASON GOOD STRIKER HAS TO SAY.

02-09-2005, 07:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
whalawitsagirl Junior Dancer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in a house Posts: 126	really? well i'll have to go to that then. and when is that pow-wow? i' will make it a point to go there and ask him all these questions. too bad you can't get him to answer these for himself huh! under "HOME OF THE CHICKEN DANCER" huh?

02-11-2005, 08:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
tsuj510 Teen Dancer Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 420	I'd like to meet those gentlemen, but I live in Oakland, CA now.. Anybody got thier address-I'm kidding.... Well, thanks for the info-I'll remember those names and hopefully bump into them sometime on the powwow trail... Thanks for the feedback-back to the drawing board, innit??

02-15-2005, 11:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
whalawitsagirl Junior Dancer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in a house Posts: 126	hey there 49 king well hey there 49 king how are you today? so i've asked some elders around here and they have informed me that yes the round bustle was started around here but it was seen by other tribes and went from here and spread out into chicken dance. what do you think oh great one?

02-15-2005, 05:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
whalawitsagirl Junior Dancer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in a house Posts: 126	Well Grasshopper Well Not Alot But That's Because You Can;t Jsut Put On An Outfit And Say Your A Chicken Dancer Or Round Bustel You Have Ot Know The History And Meaning Behind The Various Parts Of The Outfit But That Goes With Every Tribe Right?

02-15-2005, 06:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
whalawitsagirl Junior Dancer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in a house Posts: 126	Well Grasshopper Well That Is True But When It Comes To Certain Dance Catagories Such As Your Traditional And Grass And Fancy, Both Men And Women, Yea People Have A Tendency To Just Wear Whatever And Don't Care To Hear Or Learn The History Behind It But I Was Raised To Learn, Understand And Resect The History Behind The Items So I Can Wear It With Pride And Diginity. And Yes, I Do Dance On Occasion. Do You Dance 49 King?

02-15-2005, 06:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
tiBBy Junior Dancer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Posts: 194	quit it! U two are funny! Hey Whala...what is a 'dunk and dive'? is that like dunk n doughnuts cuz i want some..LOL... Hey...ask shawn scabbyrobe about the prarie chicken dance...I believe the orgin of his style is plains..blackfeet...blackfoot..whatever Then Terry Hemesah(sp) I believe that his style is 'dunk n divin' plateau orgin... two totally different styles...both respectable in its own manner... heard in siimnash they had an 'old style vs. contemp' chicken style thing? there is a topic for discussion...what do u think of that??? __________________ ~.~ A friend is~.~ " someone who can sing the song in your heart, even when you have forgotten the words...;)"