Costume Referred - Page 2

Tsiniti · 08-12-2002, 04:34 PM

to Ehosah,

The person you descibed in your post sounds as if his heart has been "Indian" long before he discovered his blood was! I'm so glad you are an enrolled and recognized Native.
Yess I'm a Wannabe and proud of it!!!!!! I have considered and known I was Cherokee since I was little, I have always considered my self Native, much to the Charinge of my parents, who now that I finally found the proof I've searched for for years say good now we can get some money! Well I seem to have accidently lost that proof ...... I'm not Native for the money! I can't afford $2000 for regalia! Why do I "dress up"? For the fun of it!! For the commraderie of it! Because it seems to be the only time I am accepted by my peers to be who I have always been!
I do not have blue eyes and pale skin, I know I am not white! My mother informed my she gave birth to white children, I told her I have NEVER been white, so I guess I'm not her daughter ... she has since changed her mind and heart, and learned to accept me for myself.
I only hope you learn to accept people on the judgment of their heart, and not the pocket, or the "CARD"
Cards do not make the person so much as your words and actions, you do not sound like a person who I wish to learn from, or wish to teach my daughter anything! I have been invited for many years to talk at Girl Scoup groups to discuss what I know about Native Americans, the different styles and tribes, I do not have a "College Degree" nor do I pass myself off as anything except a Girl Scout Leader who happens to be knowledgable in some things and can help where I can!

MuzeBl · 08-12-2002, 07:05 PM

Growing up in Maryland and not being told about our plains Indian heritage, my father and brother both earned Eagle scout awards. My sister and I were girlscouts. My father a scout master, but we didn't know of our native heritage until we were told....I was 20. We spent more time outside than anywhere and felt something just wasn't quite right about the way we were raised.
Well, to make a very LONG story short, I'm working to mend the chains that were broken and hopefully, my child will take what we learn to heart and pass it down.

Strange thing...the Kiowa/Cheyenne family that took us in down in Anadarko didn't have a problem with anything we asked them and was very happy to share.

(but they've never been to this board)

powwowbum49 · 08-13-2002, 02:38 AM

Let's not stray too far off Topic please!

Selina · 08-13-2002, 04:40 AM

I simply call it "outfit" or "dance outfit"......
:D :Chatter :Chatter :D

ahneenah · 01-12-2003, 08:05 PM

WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND WAS DANCING AND PEOPLE USE TO REMARK ON MY OUTFIT A S A COSTUME,I USE TO LOOK AT THEIR EXPESSION AND TONE OF THE VOICE.iF IT WAS A VOICE OF CURIOSITY,I WOULD SMILE AND TELL THEM THANK YOU OR ANSWER POLITELY AND ALWAYS WITH A SMILE ANSWER TO THEIR QUESTIONS.
BUT IF THEY REMARKED IN A SARCASTIC WAY I SIMPLY TOLD THEM THAT I REGARD MY COSTUME AS AN OUTFIT"AFTER ALL COSTUMES ARE FOR HALOWEEN"......
NOW I HEAR A NEW WORD "REGALIA"IM NOT TOO SURE HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT BUT I WILL STICK TO OUTFIT FOR NOW.

superndngyrl · 01-14-2003, 11:17 AM

when i'm all decked in my indian clothes people come up and touch me and my clothes and say oh u have a beautiful costume. At first I was offended but now I don't really care cuz i agree w/has been said before. the spectators and outsiders don't understand or know what to call it.

I'll politely say oh my Indian clothes? thanks. :) and cheese cuz they are trying to take a pic next.

Jacques · 01-14-2003, 03:57 PM

My 2 cents:Costume is a french word which means 90% of the time"ceremonial attire".People wear wedding costumes,dance costume[dance as in ball]church costume[when going to church]
When you say costume in french,you mean Tux.So there is nothing demeaning or insulting about the word.......Unless of course you choose to go powwow and grass dance wearing a tuxedo

:D

08-12-2002, 04:34 PM	#21 (permalink)
Tsiniti Dancin n Vendin Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: TN Posts: 295	Tanting to Ehosah, The person you descibed in your post sounds as if his heart has been "Indian" long before he discovered his blood was! I'm so glad you are an enrolled and recognized Native. Yess I'm a Wannabe and proud of it!!!!!! I have considered and known I was Cherokee since I was little, I have always considered my self Native, much to the Charinge of my parents, who now that I finally found the proof I've searched for for years say good now we can get some money! Well I seem to have accidently lost that proof ...... I'm not Native for the money! I can't afford $2000 for regalia! Why do I "dress up"? For the fun of it!! For the commraderie of it! Because it seems to be the only time I am accepted by my peers to be who I have always been! I do not have blue eyes and pale skin, I know I am not white! My mother informed my she gave birth to white children, I told her I have NEVER been white, so I guess I'm not her daughter ... she has since changed her mind and heart, and learned to accept me for myself. I only hope you learn to accept people on the judgment of their heart, and not the pocket, or the "CARD" Cards do not make the person so much as your words and actions, you do not sound like a person who I wish to learn from, or wish to teach my daughter anything! I have been invited for many years to talk at Girl Scoup groups to discuss what I know about Native Americans, the different styles and tribes, I do not have a "College Degree" nor do I pass myself off as anything except a Girl Scout Leader who happens to be knowledgable in some things and can help where I can! __________________ Your Heart Shows by how Your Words and Actions Affect Others. Nah I ain't NO WANNABE! I don't gotta wannabe when people wannabe like me!

08-12-2002, 07:05 PM	#22 (permalink)
MuzeBl Gourd Dancer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kiowa Country Oklahoma Posts: 93	Growing up in Maryland and not being told about our plains Indian heritage, my father and brother both earned Eagle scout awards. My sister and I were girlscouts. My father a scout master, but we didn't know of our native heritage until we were told....I was 20. We spent more time outside than anywhere and felt something just wasn't quite right about the way we were raised. Well, to make a very LONG story short, I'm working to mend the chains that were broken and hopefully, my child will take what we learn to heart and pass it down. Strange thing...the Kiowa/Cheyenne family that took us in down in Anadarko didn't have a problem with anything we asked them and was very happy to share. (but they've never been to this board) __________________ Instead of telling God how big your storm is, tell your storm how big your God is!

08-13-2002, 02:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
powwowbum49 Arena Director Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: midwest, USA Posts: 809	Let's not stray too far off Topic please! __________________ PB49 "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up." Pablo Picasso My comments are based on what I have been taught and my experiences over the years I have been around the circle. They should in no way be taken as gospel truths and are merely my opinions or attempts at passing on what I have learned while still learning more.

08-13-2002, 04:40 AM	#24 (permalink)
Selina freak ;-) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 737	I simply call it "outfit" or "dance outfit"...... :D :Chatter :Chatter :D __________________ Live each and every day of your life as though it would be your last!

01-12-2003, 08:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
ahneenah JIBBY'S MOM Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ottawa Canada Posts: 16	WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND WAS DANCING AND PEOPLE USE TO REMARK ON MY OUTFIT A S A COSTUME,I USE TO LOOK AT THEIR EXPESSION AND TONE OF THE VOICE.iF IT WAS A VOICE OF CURIOSITY,I WOULD SMILE AND TELL THEM THANK YOU OR ANSWER POLITELY AND ALWAYS WITH A SMILE ANSWER TO THEIR QUESTIONS. BUT IF THEY REMARKED IN A SARCASTIC WAY I SIMPLY TOLD THEM THAT I REGARD MY COSTUME AS AN OUTFIT"AFTER ALL COSTUMES ARE FOR HALOWEEN"...... NOW I HEAR A NEW WORD "REGALIA"IM NOT TOO SURE HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT BUT I WILL STICK TO OUTFIT FOR NOW. __________________ smilies are on meundefined

01-14-2003, 11:17 AM	#26 (permalink)
superndngyrl photo fun Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in front of the computer Posts: 4,291	when i'm all decked in my indian clothes people come up and touch me and my clothes and say oh u have a beautiful costume. At first I was offended but now I don't really care cuz i agree w/has been said before. the spectators and outsiders don't understand or know what to call it. I'll politely say oh my Indian clothes? thanks. :) and cheese cuz they are trying to take a pic next. __________________ The only time its too late to start dancing is when you're dead.

01-14-2003, 03:57 PM	#27 (permalink)
Jacques Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Lakota tamakoce,SD,USA Posts: 63	My 2 cents:Costume is a french word which means 90% of the time"ceremonial attire".People wear wedding costumes,dance costume[dance as in ball]church costume[when going to church] When you say costume in french,you mean Tux.So there is nothing demeaning or insulting about the word.......Unless of course you choose to go powwow and grass dance wearing a tuxedo :D __________________ Hate is for FOOLS!And fools like m&ms come in all colors I am ready to tell you my secret now,I see dumb people,.I see them everywhere.They dont know they're dumb,they only see what they want to see.That weird feeling which make the hair on your neck stand up....thats them!

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