Need some help

kiiyaaniiasdzaa · 03-26-2003, 02:54 AM

I barely started beading. Most of my flat stich and applique bead work doesnt come out nice and flat. What are some suggestions you pro beaders have?I mostly use the crib cloth to bead on. What am I doing wrong? Alot of it happens when I do big pieces or background filing!

wyo_rose · 03-26-2003, 07:18 PM

Bead and bead and bead and bead.

And don't scrunch your beads together. They need elbow room. Just imagine little beady elbows and give them wiggle room. They sew 'em down real tight.

If your crib cloth is buckling up, put some good old brown paper bag behind it to stabilize it.

Blackbear · 03-26-2003, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by wyo_rose
Bead and bead and bead and bead.

And don't scrunch your beads together. They need elbow room. Just imagine little beady elbows and give them wiggle room. They sew 'em down real tight.

If your crib cloth is buckling up, put some good old brown paper bag behind it to stabilize it.

ROFLMAO!!!! Little beady elbows!!!! Can I use this as my custom signature?????

kiiyaaniiasdzaa · 03-27-2003, 12:59 AM

thank you for your suggestions, I really appreciate it!:D

wyo_rose · 03-27-2003, 02:13 PM

Have at it, Blackbear. I'm glad you liked it!

And I meant to say, THEN sew 'em down real tight. Geez, it was a long day yesterday.

Blackbear · 03-27-2003, 03:45 PM

heheh..I LOVED it...cracked me up good..I got a great mental vision of beady elbows LOL!!!

Kii (sorry gonna shorten for my spellings sake ok?)

I have a thread that is at the top of the pile here called applique introduction... you might be able to get some tips out of it..not sure what all is at the moment...but folks left lots of good tips.

wyo_rose · 03-27-2003, 03:53 PM

OMG, you really did it!! For some reason I can't stop laughing.:Chatter

Blackbear · 03-28-2003, 03:19 AM

:rocking: :man:

**spottedeagle** · 03-28-2003, 09:41 AM

LOL, Blackbear ;)

kiiyaaniiasdzaa. Blackbear is right her Intro to Applique thread is awesome. Not only are there alot of good hints, but a lot of people asked questions you are probally wondering about yourself. I know I was one of those people asking plenty of questions!!!!!!!!

Singing Otter · 03-28-2003, 01:59 PM

BB

that was funny.

Suzizila · 03-28-2003, 04:23 PM

Elbow room, oh elbow room.....got to give the beads some elbow room!!!!!!!!!!! :D

That's a good one.

Reez · 03-30-2003, 02:29 AM

Maybe someone could help with this. While surfing beading sites and links and MORE links I saw a light yellow or pale beige choker, that fit on top like a collar, had netting to fall down the neck, then a huge loom-like center peice so that the whole piece covered the neck to the shoulders, the design was butterflies in pale victorian colors....yes, with fringe.
It may have been on a book cover...it had some other beaded peices around it. Saw it and have not been able to get it out of my mind. Didn't think to bookmark it cause I'm not that big a fan of butterflies. But now my brain has caught up to my fingers It is a style that could be adapted to another motif and I'm going nuts.....
Please tell me someone else has seen this picture.
Thank You

Blackbear · 03-30-2003, 04:54 AM

Yikes..without seeing it I don't think i can help you much.. it did'nt happen to be one of Barbara Elbe's designs did it? It certainly sounds like one of her creations.

Reez · 03-30-2003, 06:07 PM

Rechecked her site as that was one of the hundreds I whipped thru during one of my bead-viewing spasms.....Sigh....
Thank you for answering tho, really appreciated the tutorial on the beaver medallion you posted.
Maybe you can help with a ongoing problem
Q#2: where can I find brain-tanned leather for sale ???? I have tried for years to sew onto leather and not only does it tear my hands up, but looks outstandingly bad. Was told a few years ago to get the brain-tanned, but unless I do it myself it doesn't appear to be available. Have looked on the www. but had no luck and even tried to get a taxidermist to do one for me with no luck.....

wyo_rose · 03-30-2003, 06:32 PM

Sewing on leather?? Ew, yuck, puh, puh!! ;)

My cousin sells braintanned buckskin at her store. Other than going straight to the tanner, this is the only place I can think of for some good quality stuff.
Here's her website: http://www.ancientwayswest.com/index.html

Even tho she doesn't have supplies listed, you can contact her and see what she has available. Expect to pay $100 - $150 for a whole hide, but they have smaller pieces sometimes for much less.

But I encourage everybody to check out her website. Her store is just as beautiful!! If you're every driving thru WYO you gotta stop by!

Reez · 03-30-2003, 09:48 PM

OH...MY...GOSH..:D

Her work is beautiful ! Had to call a few friends to squeal about the hide !!!!
Squeek-FEST...Live on the east coast and can think of about 6 more people gona go nuts !!!! All dancers that had given up on finding it.

Well...you've certainly changed some lives tonight !!!!

03-26-2003, 02:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
kiiyaaniiasdzaa Jing-a-ling Shook-shook Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 434	Need some help I barely started beading. Most of my flat stich and applique bead work doesnt come out nice and flat. What are some suggestions you pro beaders have?I mostly use the crib cloth to bead on. What am I doing wrong? Alot of it happens when I do big pieces or background filing!

03-27-2003, 12:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
kiiyaaniiasdzaa Jing-a-ling Shook-shook Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 434	thank you thank you for your suggestions, I really appreciate it!:D

03-27-2003, 03:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,618	heheh..I LOVED it...cracked me up good..I got a great mental vision of beady elbows LOL!!! Kii (sorry gonna shorten for my spellings sake ok?) I have a thread that is at the top of the pile here called applique introduction... you might be able to get some tips out of it..not sure what all is at the moment...but folks left lots of good tips. __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

03-28-2003, 03:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,618	:rocking: :man: __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

03-28-2003, 09:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
spottedeagle FANMAKR Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Soaring over you Posts: 4,474	LOL, Blackbear ;) kiiyaaniiasdzaa. Blackbear is right her Intro to Applique thread is awesome. Not only are there alot of good hints, but a lot of people asked questions you are probally wondering about yourself. I know I was one of those people asking plenty of questions!!!!!!!! __________________ The things you are doing today are the traditions of twenty-five years from now. -Daryl Baldwin: Miami

03-26-2003, 07:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,019 Blog Entries: 2	Bead and bead and bead and bead. And don't scrunch your beads together. They need elbow room. Just imagine little beady elbows and give them wiggle room. They sew 'em down real tight. If your crib cloth is buckling up, put some good old brown paper bag behind it to stabilize it.

03-27-2003, 02:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,019 Blog Entries: 2	Have at it, Blackbear. I'm glad you liked it! And I meant to say, THEN sew 'em down real tight. Geez, it was a long day yesterday.

03-27-2003, 03:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,019 Blog Entries: 2	OMG, you really did it!! For some reason I can't stop laughing.:Chatter

03-28-2003, 01:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Singing Otter Gotz ta be me! Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,391 Blog Entries: 1	BB that was funny. __________________ Cowboy wisdom: A thong is like a barb wire fence, it protects the property without blocking the view.

03-28-2003, 04:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
Suzizila Junior Dancer Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Right by the Spay-lay-wi-theepi Posts: 206	Elbow room, oh elbow room.....got to give the beads some elbow room!!!!!!!!!!! :D That's a good one.

03-30-2003, 02:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
Reez Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 13	Surfed to hard ! Maybe someone could help with this. While surfing beading sites and links and MORE links I saw a light yellow or pale beige choker, that fit on top like a collar, had netting to fall down the neck, then a huge loom-like center peice so that the whole piece covered the neck to the shoulders, the design was butterflies in pale victorian colors....yes, with fringe. It may have been on a book cover...it had some other beaded peices around it. Saw it and have not been able to get it out of my mind. Didn't think to bookmark it cause I'm not that big a fan of butterflies. But now my brain has caught up to my fingers It is a style that could be adapted to another motif and I'm going nuts..... Please tell me someone else has seen this picture. Thank You

03-30-2003, 04:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,618	Yikes..without seeing it I don't think i can help you much.. it did'nt happen to be one of Barbara Elbe's designs did it? It certainly sounds like one of her creations. __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

03-30-2003, 06:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
Reez Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 13	Rechecked her site as that was one of the hundreds I whipped thru during one of my bead-viewing spasms.....Sigh.... Thank you for answering tho, really appreciated the tutorial on the beaver medallion you posted. Maybe you can help with a ongoing problem Q#2: where can I find brain-tanned leather for sale ???? I have tried for years to sew onto leather and not only does it tear my hands up, but looks outstandingly bad. Was told a few years ago to get the brain-tanned, but unless I do it myself it doesn't appear to be available. Have looked on the www. but had no luck and even tried to get a taxidermist to do one for me with no luck.....

03-30-2003, 06:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,019 Blog Entries: 2	Sewing on leather?? Ew, yuck, puh, puh!! ;) My cousin sells braintanned buckskin at her store. Other than going straight to the tanner, this is the only place I can think of for some good quality stuff. Here's her website: http://www.ancientwayswest.com/index.html Even tho she doesn't have supplies listed, you can contact her and see what she has available. Expect to pay $100 - $150 for a whole hide, but they have smaller pieces sometimes for much less. But I encourage everybody to check out her website. Her store is just as beautiful!! If you're every driving thru WYO you gotta stop by!

03-30-2003, 09:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
Reez Pow Wow Visitor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 13	OH...MY...GOSH..:D Her work is beautiful ! Had to call a few friends to squeal about the hide !!!! Squeek-FEST...Live on the east coast and can think of about 6 more people gona go nuts !!!! All dancers that had given up on finding it. Well...you've certainly changed some lives tonight !!!!

03-31-2003, 01:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,019