Rolled edges on beadwork

Singing Otter · 03-21-2002, 02:46 AM

Can anyone explain how to do rolled edges to finish off beadwork?

Blackbear · 03-21-2002, 03:10 AM

I am not sure what you mean by rolled edges....can you explain or have a pic or a link of a pic so I can see what you are talking about?

Mato Winyan · 03-21-2002, 11:58 AM

here is the rolled edge

i think some call it whipped edge too

Singing Otter · 03-21-2002, 12:07 PM

Yup, that's it. Thanks Mato.

Czechy · 03-21-2002, 12:42 PM

Its not hard to do but does use a lot of beads. Its basically a whip stitch with beads on your thread. I think one of my bead books at home has a diagram showing how to do it. I'll see if I can post it here tomorrow.

Blackbear · 03-21-2002, 01:49 PM

Yeah I agree it is whipstitched...but hey Czechy...do they use soemthing in the middle of that for stability like pipeing or a small roll of leather? I have seen this but have never done it before.

Singing Otter · 03-21-2002, 02:58 PM

I can whip stitch but the lanes tend to lean... Was wondering if anyone had a better technique...

Mato Winyan · 03-21-2002, 03:18 PM

Quote:

do they use something in the middle of that for stability like pipeing or a small roll of leather?

:50:

Never thought of that..............that may be why mine doesn't turn out well! :Thinking

powwowbum49 · 03-22-2002, 12:10 AM

I've never used piping in anything I have done that on and it has always looked right.

As for them leaning, you just have to make sure your lane of beads is straight across the seam and not too many beads in it. You angle the needle and thread over to the next bead placement. It is natural for the thread to show slightly on this technique, usually on the back side. Also once a few/all the rows are on then that should also prevent leaning because of the other beads beside them.

lightningflash · 03-27-2002, 05:17 PM

If you want a bigger rolled edge you just leave 1/2" or so of leather unbeaded around the edge of your piece. Put on a thin layer of glue and roll it up, then do your whip-stitch beading over it. The wider the unbeaded leather, the bigger the roll is.

Czechy · 03-28-2002, 12:03 PM

Nope, I've never used any piping or fill material. I think powwowbum explained it well. Its those subtle things that can throw off this stitch. Like the angle you are inserting your needle, and getting the right number of beads for a decent wrap with each stitch. If you aren't consistent with your stitches, it will definitely show. You can compensate somewhat but not always. It also helps to use the thickest thread (doubled) possible for your beads. That helps give your edges some solidity. Other than that, all I can say is, keep trying.

contemptradish · 04-04-2002, 01:03 PM

i've never used any kind of piping or place fillers either. the beads seem to help all the other beads stay in place and get the correct "lump" going on. that's just the way it's always worked out in my case.

has anyone ever done it with some sort of piping though? it jsut seems like an extra step that might get in the way....??

Selina · 04-07-2002, 09:14 AM

I only used folded leather to bead over, but not always.
I noticed, that the stitches are more even, when you fold over the leather before beading.
:D

eaglevoice.net · 04-14-2002, 03:46 AM

:WaveThe diagram is great, my question is "How do you get the beads to cover the corner? When I tried this method, my leather was not totally covered and it showed dramatically. Is there a trick to cover this?

03-21-2002, 02:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
Singing Otter Gotz ta be me! Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,387 Blog Entries: 1	Rolled edges on beadwork Can anyone explain how to do rolled edges to finish off beadwork?

03-22-2002, 12:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
powwowbum49 Arena Director Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: midwest, USA Posts: 792	I've never used piping in anything I have done that on and it has always looked right. As for them leaning, you just have to make sure your lane of beads is straight across the seam and not too many beads in it. You angle the needle and thread over to the next bead placement. It is natural for the thread to show slightly on this technique, usually on the back side. Also once a few/all the rows are on then that should also prevent leaning because of the other beads beside them. __________________ PB49 "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up." Pablo Picasso My comments are based on what I have been taught and my experiences over the years I have been around the circle. They should in no way be taken as gospel truths and are merely my opinions or attempts at passing on what I have learned while still learning more.

04-04-2002, 01:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
contemptradish Junior Dancer Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: B-town, IN Posts: 148	i've never used any kind of piping or place fillers either. the beads seem to help all the other beads stay in place and get the correct "lump" going on. that's just the way it's always worked out in my case. has anyone ever done it with some sort of piping though? it jsut seems like an extra step that might get in the way....?? __________________ C-trad

04-14-2002, 03:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
eaglevoice.net Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 33	Beading :WaveThe diagram is great, my question is "How do you get the beads to cover the corner? When I tried this method, my leather was not totally covered and it showed dramatically. Is there a trick to cover this? __________________ Treat others the way you want to be treated :supperhap

03-21-2002, 03:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
Blackbear Gone Fishing Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,577	I am not sure what you mean by rolled edges....can you explain or have a pic or a link of a pic so I can see what you are talking about?

03-21-2002, 12:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Singing Otter Gotz ta be me! Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,387 Blog Entries: 1	Yup, that's it. Thanks Mato.

03-21-2002, 12:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Czechy wrapped in ribbonwork! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Here....for now Posts: 769	Its not hard to do but does use a lot of beads. Its basically a whip stitch with beads on your thread. I think one of my bead books at home has a diagram showing how to do it. I'll see if I can post it here tomorrow.

03-21-2002, 01:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Blackbear Gone Fishing Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,577	Yeah I agree it is whipstitched...but hey Czechy...do they use soemthing in the middle of that for stability like pipeing or a small roll of leather? I have seen this but have never done it before.

03-21-2002, 02:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Singing Otter Gotz ta be me! Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,387 Blog Entries: 1	I can whip stitch but the lanes tend to lean... Was wondering if anyone had a better technique...

03-27-2002, 05:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
lightningflash Junior Dancer Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 112	If you want a bigger rolled edge you just leave 1/2" or so of leather unbeaded around the edge of your piece. Put on a thin layer of glue and roll it up, then do your whip-stitch beading over it. The wider the unbeaded leather, the bigger the roll is.

03-28-2002, 12:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
Czechy wrapped in ribbonwork! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Here....for now Posts: 769	Nope, I've never used any piping or fill material. I think powwowbum explained it well. Its those subtle things that can throw off this stitch. Like the angle you are inserting your needle, and getting the right number of beads for a decent wrap with each stitch. If you aren't consistent with your stitches, it will definitely show. You can compensate somewhat but not always. It also helps to use the thickest thread (doubled) possible for your beads. That helps give your edges some solidity. Other than that, all I can say is, keep trying.

04-07-2002, 09:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
Selina freak ;-) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 737	I only used folded leather to bead over, but not always. I noticed, that the stitches are more even, when you fold over the leather before beading. :D