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Tiny Tot Dancer
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Oklahoma. . .I want to go home!!!
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hey everyone, i was wondering what people had to offer for suggestions for backing. i just finished some cuffs and leg bands for my son. they are lazy stitch. i asked around and people told me to back it with canvas and some plastic/cardboard/stiff material in between the 2 canvas' to help keep its shape. then go around the edges with some sort of tape. can't remember the name off hand. anyway, i was hoping to get some good suggestions as to what works the best and what kind of material presents problems or what to avoid. any help would be greatly appreciated because it took me a while to finish them. thanx much.
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Junior Dancer
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Oregon
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When I make regalia pieces I usually bead on canvas, then use heat-n-bond to attach a soft cotton backing, then whip-stitch around the edges and then add a bead edging. I wouldn't use a plastic stiffener for cuffs, because you want them flexible enough so that they don't rub on your arms. I use plastic for stiffening barrettes, or things that REALLY need to be solid. But for those cuffs, between the beadwork itself and the heat-n-bond it should be stiff enough to hold it's shape and still be flexible enough to wear.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Here....for now
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I've made cuffs and armbands using the same method that Lightningflash does and it has worked very well. Cardboard will disintegrate eventually and will get yucky if you sweat on it or get it wet. The plastic can break if you use needlepoint plastic. If nothing else, it can chafe. Depending upon how thick the canvas is, you can double it if you need to.
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Tiny Tot Dancer
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Oklahoma. . .I want to go home!!!
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sounds good. . my friend told me to back it with a thicker canvas material and then a nice satin cloth to make it look good. . . he told me to sew some bias (not sure about spelling) tape around the edges. then, i want to sew the fringed bucksin to the back of the finished product. that way, i can change my son's buckskin when it starts to get old and tired. can you get the heat and bond at a fabric store and will they know about how thick the cotton will need to be? is it just a slight layer? what do you think about the process my friend told me? thanks much. I would rather do it the right way instead of go half a** and cut corners.
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Pow Wow Visitor
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Florida
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Hi,
I just joined and if you haven't finished your cuffs yet, try interfaceing, like they use in shirt collers. There are all different weights of this material and it works great for many beaded things that you want a little stiff, but bery flexible. |
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Just read on the beaded crown topic that fun foam could be used. Anyone else try that?
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That is what I backed my crown with and what I am backing my daughter's crown with also. It is wonderful stuff to bead on and does'nt break down or deteriorate! I was suggesting this to another gal on here for the same thing..crowns. It makes beadign easier and faster and with great results! My crown can be seen in the gallery under women's cloth dancing.
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Tiny Tot Dancer
Join Date: Sep 2000
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I use canvas, doubled over if it is too thin. On the back of the canvas I put masking tape (easier to line up rows). after the beadwork is done I put duct(duck)tape then a material backing. the duct tape keeps the sweat from damaging the thread.
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Pow Wow Visitor
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: WI
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Leather is always good, that brown buckskin that those hobbyists use (the cheapest kind) is the best to use as backing. Since noone can see it, its put to use, and its still leather, so it'll move and breathe, as far as if you've already got loomwork off, then put canvas on the back, then put it on whatever you're using it on, for example, if you're making side drops, put it on the canvas, then sew the canvas to the leather.
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