05-31-2002, 07:12 PM
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same problem....
I have the same problem.
I don't make too many rosettes, so I have problems with the design to stay even. Also my rosettes are puckered up in the center. I guess I have to loosen up a little :D I also use one thread with the back stitch and either canvas or buckskin. After finishing it I back it up with stiff leather or plastic and glue it together. The glue makes a very firm and even. After that I do some edge beading around. ;)
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06-01-2002, 07:48 AM
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Tiny Tot Dancer
Join Date: Sep 2000
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beadwork backing
My good old standby is vinyl placemats..I buy them at second hand stores or garage sales. Only buy the heavy, thicker ones. They really hold beads well no matter how big your project. If you get rained on, they will dry well. You can put thin plastic in the middle . For the backing I use a lighter weight vinyl like for tablecloth, which also can stand dampness. I have made fully beaded leggings with the placemats and they never sag, and hold the zipper well. I draw my design on the placemat after cutting the leggings. Line with a cotton blend .
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06-18-2002, 01:37 PM
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words of encouragement
I just wanted to say thanks to all who posted here, I wanted to learn some information before I tried to make one for myself, I am so glad I came here to read first, before having all the heartaches not knowing.
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06-19-2002, 07:59 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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I was saying that I wanted to keep an eye on this thread to get all the ins and outs of making rosettes.
Any tips on how to think up designs? What do y'all do when doing original patterns? Draw them first...wing it and let it form as you go...mathematical formula? LOL I just get stuck when I'm trying to work my own pattern.
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06-21-2002, 08:08 AM
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I am new to making rosettes but I have used
the following to help with the "hump" beaded areas. I place the rosette on a table after beading for a while and place heavy books like the phone book on top over night. The weight helps to shift and seat the beads better. Hope this helps. |
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06-21-2002, 12:15 PM
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For a classical/traditional orientation, I have collected pictures and slides of classic beadwork from museum collections and tons of powwow photographs. My collection tends to be primarily Oglala/Lakhota stuff. (Not that I would ever copy someone's design -- a big, big no-no. ) For a wider range of influences, I have: books of caucaus and oriental rugs, aerial photographs, field guides for plants, landscape photography books, a color wheel... And because of my work, I have books with Niemansky micrographs and electron micrographs of various crystals. I also have some polarized light photos of snowflakes. These too are quite inspiring, with all their shapes and colors. I also keep a kaldiascope (sp) around for ideas for rosettes. (I know a silversmith in Farmington who keeps his granddaughter's bubble soap in his studio, says it gives him ideas.) For almost anything I am working on, be it beadwork, weaving or jewelry, I make sketches. Sometimes lots of sketches, if I can't get the piece quite right or am just having lots of ideas. (My sketches all get kept for furture inspiration.) I used to use beading graph paper, but don't anymore. It is near worthless for rosettes anyway, since beads aren't as regular as the paper. I have pastels I use to play with colors and keep my beads in clear cases where I can see them as I plan. I usually just divide the circle into segments. If I have a design element that needs to stay straight, I sketch a guideline. Other than that I don't bother. (I find I have to everse the direction I am beading on alternate rows or I'll put a faint spiral into the piece.) Is any of this helpful or am I babbling again? Sincerely, OLChemist |
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06-21-2002, 01:21 PM
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Yeah OLChemist, that's a good tip- alternating the direction you bead each row definitely helps control the tendency for your design to shift. This little trick also works with lazy/lane stitch beading.
The "humping" problem mentioned above can have a couple of causes. One is that your foundation material is not stiff enough and is puckering under your stitches, especially if you tend to pull tightly on your thread. Another cause is that you are making your stitches too crowded and the beads bunch up because they can't lie totally flat. Give your beads just enough room to lie flat but not enough that they can move around. And don't pull so hard on your thread. Some of the humping can be relieved after you are done beading. Simply run extra thread through your rows of bead circles all the way around. This will even them out and make your work more durable. Try not to put much tension on the thread as you do this otherwise your rows will crowd together and replace your minor problem with one even worse! ;) So far, the advice here has been on how to make rosette designs made with a succession of concentric circles where the designs and the background are beaded at the same time. Another way to make rosettes is to bead your design element first and then fill in the background afterwards. In that case, you bead the background by working from the outer edge of the circle to the center. |
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06-22-2002, 07:08 AM
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Tiny Tot Dancer
Join Date: Sep 2000
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rosetts
that is good information. Just use placemats for the base. I do the design first and then bead backround around that. The biggest problem comes from pulling the thread too tight. Practice , practice, practice.
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06-22-2002, 11:34 AM
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Tiny Tot Dancer
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Rocky Mountains
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Extra- heavy weight Pellon is an excellent material to bead on but, can be hard to find. Check around at fabric stores. Costs around $2.00 per yard.
I bead all my rosettes on the Pellon and I always put it in an embroidery hoop to keep the Pellon tight. Been doing it this way for 22 years ! :) |
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06-28-2002, 06:58 PM
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Junior Dancer
Join Date: May 2002
Location: close to my mans heart
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I use a babys lap pad to bead on... its great... holds the shape... doesnt break down or have fuzz balls coming off of it as your trying to bead. I think thats what they are called..lap pads...
Its what you use in the crib to protect the bed from getting wet. There is no plastic on it.. just thick soft material you get in a package in the baby dept at the store. Try it.. you'll love it. ;) |
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