Bill Windwalker

do any one know about razed bead work that they did back in the 1910's in uper NY ?
i have been try in to find info on this but still no luck.
i have been try in to add a backing under the bead work to raze it up but i know this is not how they did it back then.

spottedeagle

Bill, Blackbear does raised beadwork. I don't know if it is the same style you are talking about.

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Blackbear

raised bead work


Here's what we've discussed so far... I combined three threads into one so that's why it kinda does'nt make sense in some places. This topic comes up about, oh.... every 4 to 5 months... so I just combine them... So what do you want to know about it.?

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Blackbear

that raising is done by beading over a line of beads... that's the only way I can explain it right now.

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http://www.powwows.com/gathering/att...&postid=192795 I am not sure if this shows the pic or the thread...but if it's the thread...find my post with the Glengarry attachment... this is just the top of the hat I have been working on ...this part is done. Also if you want to see lots of good examples of iroquois raised beadwork, then go to ebay and search for Iroquois beadwork or whimseys.

http://www.qesnrecit.qc.ca/socialsci.../beadlink.html

here is another good link

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Bill Windwalker

yes thats it some part of what im try in to fix has what looks like horse hair under the beads or whats left of it.... thank for your help :) :) :) :)

Blackbear

oh you have an OLDDDDD piece... they used moose hair... but that was usually for embroidery style of decoration... horsehair works just as good.. even some deer tail would work. Just use the hair as the line of beads and bead over it.

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you do know though...that if this is something you are collecting, that repairing it lessens it's value. These pieces were made for tourists back in the victorian period. They are actually big time collectors items. I have an old tuscarora box/bag that I got off ebay that's over 100 years old. It sits on my mantel.

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Bill Windwalker

oh them frog skinz people that worry about price stuff no i do not sell things that has been gifted to me ever.
and i feel that it just let it fall apart is not right to do some poor person spent a lot of time to bead things and to let them fall apart do to greed or money or what one thinks old and falling apart is more money is just not my way....
i will go out of my way to save things no matter it be critterz or some thing some one has made to share with or theres.

Thank you for telling me about the other firz and hair they have use.
i did not know this :) :) :) :)