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Old 11-27-2007, 01:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Treaty rights.

Please help me? All opinions welcome. My son was @ school today took part in classroom discussion involving the mistreatment of African Americans.My son stood up and said that no one deserves such treatment. The teacher told the class room that indians get to much for FREE... and should not have Special privileges. That the Blacks don,t get any why should the Indians.

How dare him to talk to my child or and child and spread his hateful one sided biased and hurtful opinion on the kids in the class room.

It only promotes hate, this teacher needs to go back to school and find out more about natives, Are a separate nation sovereign from the united states and in a nation to nation agreement they have been awarded these privileges my son came home humiliated embarrassed.

we us, NATIVE AMERICANS we are discriminated each day as a adult I, can deal with but my son should not have his teachers one sided biased opinion forced on him.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would knock the racist b@stard on his azz!!!....my daughters teacher tried to pull the same stunt a couple of years back and I yanked her out of the classroom and marched her up to the principals and got her suspended (the teacher)...my opinion on why Natives are given priviledges is because of past treatment, Black are given better opportunities to improve their lives, their assistance is better than ours so what the freak are they complaining about????....our people were slaves as well....what makes them think they have it harder????....anyway....we're also very much responsible for own welfare, we need to teach our children, that education is a way to level the playing field then knock them all on their azz'z.....just some things that piss me off about this whole equal treatment BS.....I actually get into very heated arguements with black people on this.....anyway......
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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One of my best friends from Jr high is black. We used to joke around about how the whites came and took our land, he said, "hell, they dragged us with them and then made us slaves, we didnt' want to come here" *L*
But the crazy thing is, we are the only two groups that are truly unique and silmilar.
We as natives ARE home. We can't go back to OUR country b/c this is our country. Many like to say that we get too much for free and that what their ancestors did should not reflect on the opportunities we get today. I would have to disagree, b/c as we all know if we moved to another country, we would have to pay for the land we live on, the house we have and other expenses. We would have taxes and other debts. To me, Indian Housing and IHS and education funding is basically a yearly tax we charge the United States Gov't to STAY on our land and live "freely" as they wanted so long ago. I don't see how there would ever be a time when it would be "paid off" as long as our lands still have United States citizens on it.
Blacks are similar in the fact that they lost their identity like the natives did. True they could have went back home but let's be serious. They were stripped of their identity and their freedoms for YEARS, so it's a lot easier to say than to do. Both cultures were abused for practicing theirs. Even if African Americans were to go back home, would they truly feel that way? I mean, think of how natives on the rez think of natives off the rez. Now increase that by thousands of miles and ocean land. Talk about culture shock.
It sounds like the teacher is in serious need of education instead of speaking from the mouth with ignorance.
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CP, we on the Navajo Res. pay taxes...I don't know if that is the same for every nation but I thought that was BS......also our IHS now requires you have a supplemental insurance jsut to be seen, and your annual income has to be at a minimum or less depending on the amount of dependants.....shyt, black people don't even have that standard, now where's the freebie that some of these people are talking about???
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I sent an email to the gentleman when this first came out. I had an issue with a teacher and my son a few years back and I posted some of it on another thread. Well, my son wanted to handle it and she got nasty with him, then it was my turn and I called the school myself. She finally called me back the next day and tried to say that he got it all wrong. I told her word for word what she had said and let her know exactly what was what with what she had been talking about.

There is nothing in life that is totally free. Indians were here and lost much of their homelands to which the gov made treaties that they still haven't kept. So how is it free? And they are still trying to take the lands. The African Americans were "set free" in the 1800's and had their choices, I agree with Canadae--it would be unlikely for them to go back to their homelands that they were taken from but they did have that choice. Indian people have not been given that choice.

This teacher needs to do some more homework before he says some things to a whole class of impressionable young children.
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osawgee,

It looks like your son's teacher needs a history lesson.

As the original inhabitants of the United States, American Indians claim rights accruing to no other group of Americans.
Treaties between governments are meant to be binding agreements. American Indian tribes have a government-to-government relationship with the United States Federal Government according to the United States Constitution in Article I, Section 8, Clause 3.

Between 1778 and 1867, The United States made 370 treaties with different Indian nations. Most of these treaties included language that pertained to Indians retaining their lands in perpetuity ("As long as the grass grows and the water flows." Hence, "time without end.").

In exchange for Indian land and trade concessions, the U.S. assumed a protective role that developed into a "trust relationship." Trust is generally defined as "the unique legal and moral duty of the United States to assist Indians in the protection of their property and rights." The various Indian nations are the "beneficiaries."

In administering this trust, federal agencies are responsible for preserving, protecting, and guaranteeing Indian rights and property. In order to do so, the U.S. Government must deliver a wide range of services to Indian people. All federal programs for Indians share two purposes: they fulfill specific treaty provisions and they fulfill a general commitment to the Indian tribes to improve their social and economic conditions.

President Bush has committed his administration to continuing to work with federally recognized tribal governments on a government-to-government basis and strongly supports and respects tribal sovereignty and self-determination for tribal governments in the United States, which has been the basis of federal Indian policy since the 1970s.


Perhaps your teacher doesn't know any of this?

Then why is she/he influencing young minds?


If you want to be sarcastic tell her/him, "once our treaties are honored and our lands returned, then we'll talk!"



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