Can anyone explain to me what this was, and what happened to my cousin? please??

indiangirlatheart · 03-12-2005, 07:25 PM

my grandmother told me that about 3 months ago, she went with my aunt and four cousins to a longhouse where there were spookie, dressed natives dancing and drumming. It seemed as though they were congering up spirits or something. She said it wes very very loud in there,almost unbearable, and no one was allowed to record this event or photograph it in any way. the spectators were told not to touch the dancers and not to let them come near you. because if you were touched , you would "crack up" as they called it. well
my cousin was touched by a dancer and he "cracked up".
he stared straight forward and was making wierd abrupt sounds. it was like he was in a trance. he didn't respond to anything you did. he was taken to a womans house, a tribe elder, to be "worked on".I guess to try to get him to snap out of it. well he snapped out of it. my aunt freaked out, she didnt know what was happening to her 16 year old son. well this happened twice, then he was told not to go into the longhouse for atleast one year, unless he wanted to become a dancer, which he would have to be sepparated from his life, and family for 6 months, to do so. I don't know what this dathering was called or what it was for, or if it was all real or not. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME SOLVE THIS MYSTERY???

**Joe G** · 03-12-2005, 07:57 PM

"You unlock this door to the longhouse with the key of imagination, beyond it is another dimension. A dimension of sound with loud music, a dimension of sight with wierd NDNs, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into . . . The Twilight Zone." Do do do do.....Do do do do

**AngelFeather** · 03-12-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by colonah04

"You unlock this door to the longhouse with the key of imagination, beyond it is another dimension. A dimension of sound with loud music, a dimension of sight with wierd NDNs, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into . . . The Twilight Zone." Do do do do.....Do do do do

LOL... thats all I have to say... LOL....

*Brown Eyed Gurl* · 03-12-2005, 10:03 PM

I was taught that we dont talk about that publically....but i dunno...im no elder.

AlmostThere · 03-12-2005, 10:44 PM

hmmm. I have no Idea. Im speachless.

Mato Winyan · 03-12-2005, 10:51 PM

"Maybe it was one of them.....um.....what do ya' call em...... fitful dreams...... yeah that's it.... a fitful dream."

Blackbear · 03-12-2005, 11:01 PM

You need to go ask your grandma or elders.. this is'nt something that should be discussed here.

*** Cetan Zi *** · 03-12-2005, 11:49 PM

UM.....
If you dont live the "traditional" ways.. as in native relgions and there are many differnt as many as there are tribes.

you need to speak to an elder from the area that this event took place.

Speaking of such things in public is a no-no.

depending upon which tribe this happened at it could cause other problems, depends on which you believe.

<--- runs away fast from this post...

*Brown Eyed Gurl* · 03-12-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cetanzi

UM.....
If you dont live the "traditional" ways.. as in native relgions and there are many differnt as many as there are tribes.

you need to speak to an elder from the area that this event took place.

Speaking of such things in public is a no-no.

depending upon which tribe this happened at it could cause other problems, depends on which you believe.

<--- runs away fast from this post...

Yes i agree 100%

**middle of the sky** · 03-13-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by indiangirlatheart

my grandmother told me that about 3 months ago, she went with my aunt and four cousins to a longhouse where there were spookie, dressed natives dancing and drumming. It seemed as though they were congering up spirits or something. She said it wes very very loud in there,almost unbearable, and no one was allowed to record this event or photograph it in any way. the spectators were told not to touch the dancers and not to let them come near you. because if you were touched , you would "crack up" as they called it. well
my cousin was touched by a dancer and he "cracked up".
he stared straight forward and was making wierd abrupt sounds. it was like he was in a trance. he didn't respond to anything you did. he was taken to a womans house, a tribe elder, to be "worked on".I guess to try to get him to snap out of it. well he snapped out of it. my aunt freaked out, she didnt know what was happening to her 16 year old son. well this happened twice, then he was told not to go into the longhouse for atleast one year, unless he wanted to become a dancer, which he would have to be sepparated from his life, and family for 6 months, to do so. I don't know what this dathering was called or what it was for, or if it was all real or not. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME SOLVE THIS MYSTERY???

are you non-native? you sound like it..anywayz.. you dont ask about peoples spiritual stuff over the internet

**AngelFeather** · 03-13-2005, 02:32 PM

I totally agree with everyone here...

Such sacred things should NOT be spoken of in such a public place as this.... youre asking for trouble when ya do. Take the advice given to you and go through correct protocol to find your answers.

I also wondered the same as MOTS... Hmmmmmm

**Kiwehnzii** · 03-13-2005, 07:29 PM

Indiangirlatheart - I am not of the nations that you spoke of.

I can only surmise that(1)you are not native, (2) you were somewhere that you shouldn't be
If # 1 is correct, I would say, you're cousin shouldn't go back, and you shouldn't go.

If you are native and of the nation that the ceremony conducted, do not go unless you have been properly instructioned and abide to all instructions.

If you are native but not of the nation of that particular ceremony, ensure that you speak with the elders of that nation and of your own before making any further decisions.

That's all I have to say.

**Kakeeya** · 03-13-2005, 10:29 PM

This is exactly why non Natives arent allowed to come into our ceremonies. I won't say anymore....

indiangirlatheart · 03-14-2005, 01:46 AM

I know I probably shouldn't have came here to find my answers, but I don't know were else to go.I don't know any elders.

I am native by blood,and at heat, It's just that I haven't been raised native.I don't know all the rules yet.and some of this stuff is freak'n me out.
like with my cousin, I think my aunt is going a little to far in trying to push her, and her children into the native community so fast . She has no idea what she could be messing with,
what she could be exposing her kids to.she's crazy, why couldn't she just take them to a powwow or somehting.
And I can't do anything to help them, and these scared kids, 16,14,12, and 9 years old, they don't know what is going on!

and at this longhouse,I think it was in mission, or abbotsford,b.c. canada. they let anyon

03-12-2005, 07:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
indiangirlatheart Lady Lynx Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Williams Lake, BC, Canada. Posts: 3	Can anyone explain to me what this was, and what happened to my cousin? please?? my grandmother told me that about 3 months ago, she went with my aunt and four cousins to a longhouse where there were spookie, dressed natives dancing and drumming. It seemed as though they were congering up spirits or something. She said it wes very very loud in there,almost unbearable, and no one was allowed to record this event or photograph it in any way. the spectators were told not to touch the dancers and not to let them come near you. because if you were touched , you would "crack up" as they called it. well my cousin was touched by a dancer and he "cracked up". he stared straight forward and was making wierd abrupt sounds. it was like he was in a trance. he didn't respond to anything you did. he was taken to a womans house, a tribe elder, to be "worked on".I guess to try to get him to snap out of it. well he snapped out of it. my aunt freaked out, she didnt know what was happening to her 16 year old son. well this happened twice, then he was told not to go into the longhouse for atleast one year, unless he wanted to become a dancer, which he would have to be sepparated from his life, and family for 6 months, to do so. I don't know what this dathering was called or what it was for, or if it was all real or not. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME SOLVE THIS MYSTERY??? Last edited by indiangirlatheart; 03-12-2005 at 09:33 PM.

03-12-2005, 07:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Joe G ~the REAL me~ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 8,935	Maybe This Is What Happened??? "You unlock this door to the longhouse with the key of imagination, beyond it is another dimension. A dimension of sound with loud music, a dimension of sight with wierd NDNs, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into . . . The Twilight Zone." Do do do do.....Do do do do

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Brown Eyed Gurl ~Brown Sugar~ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Go Canucks! Posts: 62,371 Blog Entries: 1	I was taught that we dont talk about that publically....but i dunno...im no elder. __________________ ...GoT GreaSe?... www.Grease.It.Ayye.com RezinInc Kalilsha

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AlmostThere The Original OP CREW Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: AZ Posts: 971	hmmm. I have no Idea. Im speachless. __________________ blah blah blah....

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Mato Winyan Gangster of Love Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,497 Blog Entries: 4	"Maybe it was one of them.....um.....what do ya' call em...... fitful dreams...... yeah that's it.... a fitful dream." __________________ "We see it as a desecration not only of a mountain but of our way of life. This is a genocidal issue to us. If they kill this mountain, they kill our way of life." ~Debra White Plume

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Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,618	You need to go ask your grandma or elders.. this is'nt something that should be discussed here. __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

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* Cetan Zi * PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montana, grew up in SD Posts: 16,245	UM..... If you dont live the "traditional" ways.. as in native relgions and there are many differnt as many as there are tribes. you need to speak to an elder from the area that this event took place. Speaking of such things in public is a no-no. depending upon which tribe this happened at it could cause other problems, depends on which you believe. <--- runs away fast from this post...

03-13-2005, 02:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
AngelFeather Cloud Dancer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Heaven Posts: 5,676	I totally agree with everyone here... Such sacred things should NOT be spoken of in such a public place as this.... youre asking for trouble when ya do. Take the advice given to you and go through correct protocol to find your answers. I also wondered the same as MOTS... Hmmmmmm

03-13-2005, 07:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Kiwehnzii Oldfart Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,868	Indiangirlatheart - I am not of the nations that you spoke of. I can only surmise that(1)you are not native, (2) you were somewhere that you shouldn't be If # 1 is correct, I would say, you're cousin shouldn't go back, and you shouldn't go. If you are native and of the nation that the ceremony conducted, do not go unless you have been properly instructioned and abide to all instructions. If you are native but not of the nation of that particular ceremony, ensure that you speak with the elders of that nation and of your own before making any further decisions. That's all I have to say.

03-13-2005, 10:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
Kakeeya PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: By a mountain on the Rez Posts: 2,551	This is exactly why non Natives arent allowed to come into our ceremonies. I won't say anymore....