Indian Men, Indian Women, White Women

this1ndnchic · 10-12-2004, 07:23 PM

GOt this in a email...man this made me laugh, mad and even shed a lil tear lol.

This letter was written in response to an article:

Dear Editor: I'm sorry but I would like to challenge some of your Indian male readers. I am a White female who is engaged to an Indian male-good-looking, educated and loving. I just don't understand a lot of Indian female's attitudes about our relationship. My man decided he wanted me because the pickings amongst Indian women were slim to none. As he said they were too fat, too loud, too mean, too argumentative, too needy, too materialistic or carrying too much excess baggage.

Before I became engaged, whenever I went out I was constantly approached by Indian men, willing to wine and dine me and give me the world. If Indian women are so up in arms about us being with their men, why don't they look at themselves and make some changes. I am tired of the dirty looks I get and snide remarks when we're out in public.

I would like to hear from some Indian men about why we are so appealing and coveted by them. Bryant Gumbel just left his wife of 26 years for one of us. Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, the model Tyson Beckford, Montell Williams, Quincy Jones, James Earl Jones, Harry Belafonte, Sydney Poitier, Kofi Anan, Cuba Gooding Jr., Don Cornelius, Berry Gordy, Billy Blanks, Larry Fishburne, Wesley Snipes...I could go on and on. But, right now, I'm a little angry and that is why I wrote this so hurriedly. Don't be mad with us White women because so many of your men want us. Get your acts together and learn from us and we may lead you to treat your m! en better. If I'm wrong, Indian men, let me know.

Disgusted White Girl,

Somewhere in VA

Response:

Dear Editor: I would like to respond to the letter written by A Disgusted White Girl. Let me start by saying that I am a 28-year old Indian man. I graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in Atlanta, Georgia with a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Business Management. I have a g! ood job at a major corporation and have recently purchased a house. So, I consider myself to be among the ranks of successful Non-White men. I will not use my precious time to slander white people. I just want to set the record straight of why Indian men date white women. Back in the day, one of the biggest reasons why Indian men dated white women was because they were considered easy. The Indian girls in my neighborhood were raised traditionally. They were very strict about when they lost their virginity and who they lost it to. Because of our impatience to wait, brothers would look for someone who would give it up easy without too much hassle. So, they turned to the white girls.

Nowadays, in my opinion, a lot of Indian males date white women because they are docile and easy to control. A lot of Indian men, because of insecurities, fears, and overall weaknesses, have become intimidated by the strength of our Indian women. We are afraid that our woman will be more successful than us, make more money than us, drive nicer cars and own bigger houses. Because of this fear, many Indian men look for a more docile woman. Someone we can control.

I have talked to numerous Indian men and they continuously comment on how easy it is to control and walk over their white women. I just want to set the record straight. I want A Disgusted White Girl to know that not all successful Indian men date white women. Non-Whites like Ahmad Rashad, Denzel Washington, Michael Jordan, Morris Chestnut, Will Smith, Blair Underwood, Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds, Samuel L. Jackson, and Chris Rock all married strong Non-White women. And, to flip the script, there are numerous white men, in and out of the spot light, who openly or secretly desire Non-White women over white women. Ted Danson, Robert DeNiro, ! and David Bowie to name a few.

I just don't want a disgusted white girl to be misinformed. Stop thinking that because you are white that you are some type of goddess. Remember, when Non-White Egyptian Queens like Hatsepshut and Nitorcris were ruling Dynasties and armies of men in Egypt, you were over in the caves of Europe eating raw meat and beating each other over the head with clubs. Read your history! It was the Non-White woman that ta! ught you how to cook and season your food. It was the Non-White woman that taught you how to raise your children. It was Non-White women who were breastfeeding and raising your babies during slavery. It is the Non-White woman that had to endure watching their fathers, husbands, and children beaten, killed, and thrown in jail.

Indian women were born with two strikes against them: being Non-White and being a woman. And, through all this, Still They Rise! It is because of the Indian women's strength, elegance, power, love and beauty that I could never date anyone except my Indian Queen. It is not just the outer beauty that captivates and draws me to them. It is not the fact that they come in all shapes, sizes, colors and shades that I love them. Their inner beauty is what I find most appealing about Indian women. Their strong spirit, loving and nurturing souls, their integrity, their ability to overcome great obstacle! s, their willingness to stand for what they believe in, and their determination to succeed and reach their highest potential while enduring great pain and suffering is why I have fallen in love with Indian women.

I honestly believe that your anger is geared more toward jealousy and envy than snotty looks. If this were not so, then why do you continuously go to tanning salons to darken your skin? If you are so proud to be white, then why don't you just be happy with your pale skin? Why do you continue to inject your lips, hips, and breasts with unnatural and dangerous substances so you can look fuller and more voluptuous? I think that your anger is really a result of you wanting to have what the Non-White woman has.

BOTTOM LINE: If I were looking for a docile woman, someone I can walk over and control, I would give you a call. But, unfortunately, I am looking for a Virtuous Woman. Someone that can be a good wife and mother to my children. Someone who can be my best friend and understands my struggles. I am looking for a soul mate and; unfortunately, you do not and CANNOT fit the bill. No offense taken, none given.

Signed,

Indian Royalty

*Brown Eyed Gurl* · 10-12-2004, 07:30 PM

So who is this guy an where can I find him...lolol:D

this1ndnchic · 10-12-2004, 07:34 PM

lol i know..if only i knew....I wouldnt tell :P jokes

**Kool Breeze** · 10-12-2004, 07:37 PM

So you replaced the word "Black" with "Indian" but then you couldnt think of any Indian celebrities who are dating white women?

this1ndnchic · 10-12-2004, 07:43 PM

nope I didnt change a thing...although it could of been changed. But i still liked this forward.

**kiyaanii mom** · 10-12-2004, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kool Breeze

So you replaced the word "Black" with "Indian" but then you couldnt think of any Indian celebrities who are dating white women?

ROFL! I've seen this float through my email..... Wonder what newspaper is was printed in...

fancy_shawls_225 · 10-12-2004, 08:34 PM

LOL!
I was wondering too, I've seen it on other groups. I wonder what the original letter was!!!

River Spirit · 10-12-2004, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kool Breeze

So you replaced the word "Black" with "Indian" but then you couldnt think of any Indian celebrities who are dating white women?

My thoughts exactly! The poem 'Still I Rise' is by Maya Angelou and a tribute to the strength of Black women. And, as you said, the examples are Black celebrities. If we are going to toot our own horn, let's at least be original and not plagiarize.

**CandaePrincess** · 10-13-2004, 09:58 AM

[FONT=]I think that the point that is trying to be made is, "how dare this woman write about a group of women she knows nothing about". I don't look at it as tooting one's horn. I look at it as someone standing up for what's been said. How do we know it's not a native man writing this??? Most native men do not take the time to stand up for native women. Oh they may fight for them, but you don't hear them voice out on behalf of us.
The fact is, if I want to stand up for native women as one myself I would say. Native women know what it's like to raise up a household on their own. They know what it's like to find a man who's been through hell his whole life and then to help him, she's forced to "raise" him as well. Native women live through sexual abuse, alcoholism, spousal abuse, rape, diabetes, high blood pressure, STD's, cheating, living in the worst conditions possible; and so do the native men. The difference??? The native women prevail, and then it's up to us to help keep the men afloat. So we're chosen to carry this burden and this struggle in hopes that we stay a strong people and keep our traditions alive, our stories alive, and our hope that one day when we die, people will think of us as good women, strong women, not just native women. Why do you not see many native women out in public places??? We're at home, taking care of our families after work. We're at home beading, sewing, cooking, comforting, teaching our children. We're at home listening, comforting and encouraging our husbands when they've been at work for a year and never was late or missed a day or work, yet they get passed up for a promotion given to a white guy who's only been there four months. We're at home, taking care of our own the best way we know how. That's the pride of native women and that is how I'm going to "TOOT" the horn of these frybread making, dark skinned, brown haired, big smiling, caring eyed, native dancing, child rearing, college bound, housemaking, hard working, loving wife, loving sister, loving daughter, made only by the hand of God b/c of the toils and tribulations she has been through; NATIVE WOMAN. God bless all of us and all the tears we have shed to keep sane, to keep strong and to keep going, and going, and going.........[/font]

KC Quapaw · 10-13-2004, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CandaePrincess

[FONT=]I think that the point that is trying to be made is, "how dare this woman write about a group of women she knows nothing about". I don't look at it as tooting one's horn. I look at it as someone standing up for what's been said. How do we know it's not a native man writing this??? Most native men do not take the time to stand up for native women. Oh they may fight for them, but you don't hear them voice out on behalf of us.
The fact is, if I want to stand up for native women as one myself I would say. Native women know what it's like to raise up a household on their own. They know what it's like to find a man who's been through hell his whole life and then to help him, she's forced to "raise" him as well. Native women live through sexual abuse, alcoholism, spousal abuse, rape, diabetes, high blood pressure, STD's, cheating, living in the worst conditions possible; and so do the native men. The difference??? The native women prevail, and then it's up to us to help keep the men afloat. So we're chosen to carry this burden and this struggle in hopes that we stay a strong people and keep our traditions alive, our stories alive, and our hope that one day when we die, people will think of us as good women, strong women, not just native women. Why do you not see many native women out in public places??? We're at home, taking care of our families after work. We're at home beading, sewing, cooking, comforting, teaching our children. We're at home listening, comforting and encouraging our husbands when they've been at work for a year and never was late or missed a day or work, yet they get passed up for a promotion given to a white guy who's only been there four months. We're at home, taking care of our own the best way we know how. That's the pride of native women and that is how I'm going to "TOOT" the horn of these frybread making, dark skinned, brown haired, big smiling, caring eyed, native dancing, child rearing, college bound, housemaking, hard working, loving wife, loving sister, loving daughter, made only by the hand of God b/c of the toils and tribulations she has been through; NATIVE WOMAN. God bless all of us and all the tears we have shed to keep sane, to keep strong and to keep going, and going, and going.........[/font]

:clapping:

River Spirit · 10-13-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CandaePrincess

I think that the point that is trying to be made is, "how dare this woman write about a group of women she knows nothing about". I don't look at it as tooting one's horn. I look at it as someone standing up for what's been said. How do we know it's not a native man writing this??? Most native men do not take the time to stand up for native women. Oh they may fight for them, but you don't hear them voice out on behalf of us.
The fact is, if I want to stand up for native women as one myself I would say. Native women know what it's like to raise up a household on their own. They know what it's like to find a man who's been through hell his whole life and then to help him, she's forced to "raise" him as well. Native women live through sexual abuse, alcoholism, spousal abuse, rape, diabetes, high blood pressure, STD's, cheating, living in the worst conditions possible; and so do the native men. The difference??? The native women prevail, and then it's up to us to help keep the men afloat. So we're chosen to carry this burden and this struggle in hopes that we stay a strong people and keep our traditions alive, our stories alive, and our hope that one day when we die, people will think of us as good women, strong women, not just native women. Why do you not see many native women out in public places??? We're at home, taking care of our families after work. We're at home beading, sewing, cooking, comforting, teaching our children. We're at home listening, comforting and encouraging our husbands when they've been at work for a year and never was late or missed a day or work, yet they get passed up for a promotion given to a white guy who's only been there four months. We're at home, taking care of our own the best way we know how. That's the pride of native women and that is how I'm going to "TOOT" the horn of these frybread making, dark skinned, brown haired, big smiling, caring eyed, native dancing, child rearing, college bound, housemaking, hard working, loving wife, loving sister, loving daughter, made only by the hand of God b/c of the toils and tribulations she has been through; NATIVE WOMAN. God bless all of us and all the tears we have shed to keep sane, to keep strong and to keep going, and going, and going.........

See? We don't need to 'borrow' somebody else's semantics, we can speak for ourselves; and you did so quite eloquently!

nativemom · 10-13-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CandaePrincess

[FONT=]I think that the point that is trying to be made is, "how dare this woman write about a group of women she knows nothing about". I don't look at it as tooting one's horn. I look at it as someone standing up for what's been said. How do we know it's not a native man writing this??? Most native men do not take the time to stand up for native wo

10-12-2004, 07:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
this1ndnchic ~Coastal Steps~ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ~~Seattle area~* Posts: 939	Indian Men, Indian Women, White Women GOt this in a email...man this made me laugh, mad and even shed a lil tear lol. This letter was written in response to an article: Dear Editor: I'm sorry but I would like to challenge some of your Indian male readers. I am a White female who is engaged to an Indian male-good-looking, educated and loving. I just don't understand a lot of Indian female's attitudes about our relationship. My man decided he wanted me because the pickings amongst Indian women were slim to none. As he said they were too fat, too loud, too mean, too argumentative, too needy, too materialistic or carrying too much excess baggage. Before I became engaged, whenever I went out I was constantly approached by Indian men, willing to wine and dine me and give me the world. If Indian women are so up in arms about us being with their men, why don't they look at themselves and make some changes. I am tired of the dirty looks I get and snide remarks when we're out in public. I would like to hear from some Indian men about why we are so appealing and coveted by them. Bryant Gumbel just left his wife of 26 years for one of us. Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, the model Tyson Beckford, Montell Williams, Quincy Jones, James Earl Jones, Harry Belafonte, Sydney Poitier, Kofi Anan, Cuba Gooding Jr., Don Cornelius, Berry Gordy, Billy Blanks, Larry Fishburne, Wesley Snipes...I could go on and on. But, right now, I'm a little angry and that is why I wrote this so hurriedly. Don't be mad with us White women because so many of your men want us. Get your acts together and learn from us and we may lead you to treat your m! en better. If I'm wrong, Indian men, let me know. Disgusted White Girl, Somewhere in VA Response: Dear Editor: I would like to respond to the letter written by A Disgusted White Girl. Let me start by saying that I am a 28-year old Indian man. I graduated from one of the most prestigious universities in Atlanta, Georgia with a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Business Management. I have a g! ood job at a major corporation and have recently purchased a house. So, I consider myself to be among the ranks of successful Non-White men. I will not use my precious time to slander white people. I just want to set the record straight of why Indian men date white women. Back in the day, one of the biggest reasons why Indian men dated white women was because they were considered easy. The Indian girls in my neighborhood were raised traditionally. They were very strict about when they lost their virginity and who they lost it to. Because of our impatience to wait, brothers would look for someone who would give it up easy without too much hassle. So, they turned to the white girls. Nowadays, in my opinion, a lot of Indian males date white women because they are docile and easy to control. A lot of Indian men, because of insecurities, fears, and overall weaknesses, have become intimidated by the strength of our Indian women. We are afraid that our woman will be more successful than us, make more money than us, drive nicer cars and own bigger houses. Because of this fear, many Indian men look for a more docile woman. Someone we can control. I have talked to numerous Indian men and they continuously comment on how easy it is to control and walk over their white women. I just want to set the record straight. I want A Disgusted White Girl to know that not all successful Indian men date white women. Non-Whites like Ahmad Rashad, Denzel Washington, Michael Jordan, Morris Chestnut, Will Smith, Blair Underwood, Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds, Samuel L. Jackson, and Chris Rock all married strong Non-White women. And, to flip the script, there are numerous white men, in and out of the spot light, who openly or secretly desire Non-White women over white women. Ted Danson, Robert DeNiro, ! and David Bowie to name a few. I just don't want a disgusted white girl to be misinformed. Stop thinking that because you are white that you are some type of goddess. Remember, when Non-White Egyptian Queens like Hatsepshut and Nitorcris were ruling Dynasties and armies of men in Egypt, you were over in the caves of Europe eating raw meat and beating each other over the head with clubs. Read your history! It was the Non-White woman that ta! ught you how to cook and season your food. It was the Non-White woman that taught you how to raise your children. It was Non-White women who were breastfeeding and raising your babies during slavery. It is the Non-White woman that had to endure watching their fathers, husbands, and children beaten, killed, and thrown in jail. Indian women were born with two strikes against them: being Non-White and being a woman. And, through all this, Still They Rise! It is because of the Indian women's strength, elegance, power, love and beauty that I could never date anyone except my Indian Queen. It is not just the outer beauty that captivates and draws me to them. It is not the fact that they come in all shapes, sizes, colors and shades that I love them. Their inner beauty is what I find most appealing about Indian women. Their strong spirit, loving and nurturing souls, their integrity, their ability to overcome great obstacle! s, their willingness to stand for what they believe in, and their determination to succeed and reach their highest potential while enduring great pain and suffering is why I have fallen in love with Indian women. I honestly believe that your anger is geared more toward jealousy and envy than snotty looks. If this were not so, then why do you continuously go to tanning salons to darken your skin? If you are so proud to be white, then why don't you just be happy with your pale skin? Why do you continue to inject your lips, hips, and breasts with unnatural and dangerous substances so you can look fuller and more voluptuous? I think that your anger is really a result of you wanting to have what the Non-White woman has. BOTTOM LINE: If I were looking for a docile woman, someone I can walk over and control, I would give you a call. But, unfortunately, I am looking for a Virtuous Woman. Someone that can be a good wife and mother to my children. Someone who can be my best friend and understands my struggles. I am looking for a soul mate and; unfortunately, you do not and CANNOT fit the bill. No offense taken, none given. Signed, Indian Royalty __________________ (¯`·._.·`CeDaR RoSe`·._.·´¯)

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Kool Breeze WWW.CYBERREZ.COM Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,109	So you replaced the word "Black" with "Indian" but then you couldnt think of any Indian celebrities who are dating white women? __________________ Today I'm gonna try really hard to give a $hit about what you have to say.

10-12-2004, 07:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
this1ndnchic ~Coastal Steps~ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ~~Seattle area~* Posts: 939	nope I didnt change a thing...although it could of been changed. But i still liked this forward. __________________ (¯`·._.·`CeDaR RoSe`·._.·´¯)

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fancy_shawls_225 Teen Dancer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 341	LOL! I was wondering too, I've seen it on other groups. I wonder what the original letter was!!!

10-13-2004, 09:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
CandaePrincess Go Tera Go!!!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: where it's at Posts: 9,241	[FONT=]I think that the point that is trying to be made is, "how dare this woman write about a group of women she knows nothing about". I don't look at it as tooting one's horn. I look at it as someone standing up for what's been said. How do we know it's not a native man writing this??? Most native men do not take the time to stand up for native women. Oh they may fight for them, but you don't hear them voice out on behalf of us. The fact is, if I want to stand up for native women as one myself I would say. Native women know what it's like to raise up a household on their own. They know what it's like to find a man who's been through hell his whole life and then to help him, she's forced to "raise" him as well. Native women live through sexual abuse, alcoholism, spousal abuse, rape, diabetes, high blood pressure, STD's, cheating, living in the worst conditions possible; and so do the native men. The difference??? The native women prevail, and then it's up to us to help keep the men afloat. So we're chosen to carry this burden and this struggle in hopes that we stay a strong people and keep our traditions alive, our stories alive, and our hope that one day when we die, people will think of us as good women, strong women, not just native women. Why do you not see many native women out in public places??? We're at home, taking care of our families after work. We're at home beading, sewing, cooking, comforting, teaching our children. We're at home listening, comforting and encouraging our husbands when they've been at work for a year and never was late or missed a day or work, yet they get passed up for a promotion given to a white guy who's only been there four months. We're at home, taking care of our own the best way we know how. That's the pride of native women and that is how I'm going to "TOOT" the horn of these frybread making, dark skinned, brown haired, big smiling, caring eyed, native dancing, child rearing, college bound, housemaking, hard working, loving wife, loving sister, loving daughter, made only by the hand of God b/c of the toils and tribulations she has been through; NATIVE WOMAN. God bless all of us and all the tears we have shed to keep sane, to keep strong and to keep going, and going, and going.........[/font] __________________ Mussy by birth.....Native by the Grace of God.......