paper ballots

**Ginger** · 07-05-2004, 01:19 PM

Hi to everyone I realy not which thread I should put this in. here it is. I sure which I hope you will join me in signing this petition from
MoveOn. It's about the new electronic voting terminals that are being
installed in many states. http://www.moveon.org/protectourvotes/ Too
many are "black box" voting machines -- computer terminals that don't
produce paper ballots. Without paper ballots, there's no way to know if
our votes are counted correctly. Also, computers are vulnerable to
malfunction -- how often does yours freeze up? Every voting method
should produce a paper ballot, so we can verify that our votes will
count. Join me in calling for paper ballots, at:
http://www.moveon.org/protectourvotes/ Thank you.

.

**drinkingfromysaucer2** · 07-05-2004, 07:29 PM

thnx Ginger for posting that link & info.

There's electronic voting at one of the local firestations here, some people utilized it. Not me though, because of that very reason--no accountibility.

If there was a close election race between 2 candidates, there is no way to actually re-count the electronic votes; thus, there is a loophole for vote tampering.

If the loophole can be closed, the system would be more beneficial.

**Ginger** · 07-05-2004, 08:18 PM

Your welcome, that is my fear the vote tampering, I hope that posting this will hepl even if it's just a little bit. :D

wyo_rose · 07-05-2004, 08:53 PM

Good idea, Gin. Yep, how could they do a recount??!!!??

I take care of about 200+ computers and I don't trust them as far as I can regularly throw them. It would just give the hackers a new project.:(

wyo_rose · 07-05-2004, 08:55 PM

I don't even trust online petitions!!

jokes!

**Ginger** · 07-05-2004, 11:15 PM

I know what you mean :D

Sophie · 07-08-2004, 07:22 PM

im confused - would it be like a receipt to keep at home or would it just spit it out and you'd walk it over and turn it in like normal?

i thought that the benefits of using computerized voting was to ensure greater flexibility (bcs filling out the scantron circles things is such a pain in the shorts if you have to erase one you can ruin the whole darn ballot and have to start over) and greater accuracy (bcs the hole punch things r so questionable... can we say chad?)... right??? Not to mention saving trees....???

:Thinking

Couldn't the computer just give us a confirmation number (like you get when you pay your bills online) or something for us to write down and keep that would serve the same purpose w/o having to waste more paper? :dontknow:

sorry if these r stupid questions - im just curious....

**Ginger** · 07-09-2004, 12:15 AM

No those aren't stupid questions Sophie :D their good ones,
and I do remember the Chad's. I'm from Florida

computer voting could be wonderful thing but their are so many people that can change your vote( computer experts working for the government) to benefit another candidate their is so much back stabbing right now.
it would be awesome to be able to have a printed receipt from electronic voting but that is not happening at the moment.

Sophie · 07-09-2004, 08:34 PM

oh, okay, thanks - that makes sense... hopefully there will be enough support to do somthing about this....

now, if we can just get everyone to actually GO to the polls and vote!!! :wall::duhh:

**Ginger** · 07-10-2004, 02:03 PM

I know, a lot of people are saying I don't like who is running.

So now their saying I'm not voting ugg I just want to hit them (get a reality check) I tell them yes go vote, just don't vote the the crazy man.

Sophie · 07-12-2004, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger

I know, a lot of people are saying I don't like who is running.

So now their saying I'm not voting ugg I just want to hit them (get a reality check) I tell them yes go vote, just don't vote the the crazy man.

sister, ur preachin' to the choir!

07-05-2004, 01:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ginger commander bun-bun Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 10,169	paper ballots Hi to everyone I realy not which thread I should put this in. here it is. I sure which I hope you will join me in signing this petition from MoveOn. It's about the new electronic voting terminals that are being installed in many states. http://www.moveon.org/protectourvotes/ Too many are "black box" voting machines -- computer terminals that don't produce paper ballots. Without paper ballots, there's no way to know if our votes are counted correctly. Also, computers are vulnerable to malfunction -- how often does yours freeze up? Every voting method should produce a paper ballot, so we can verify that our votes will count. Join me in calling for paper ballots, at: http://www.moveon.org/protectourvotes/ Thank you. . __________________ don't you be wastin' all your money on syrup and honey because i'm sweet enough Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile. Last edited by Ginger; 07-05-2004 at 01:23 PM.

07-05-2004, 07:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
drinkingfromysaucer2 PowWows.com Addicts Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: so cal Posts: 13,360	thnx Ginger for posting that link & info. There's electronic voting at one of the local firestations here, some people utilized it. Not me though, because of that very reason--no accountibility. If there was a close election race between 2 candidates, there is no way to actually re-count the electronic votes; thus, there is a loophole for vote tampering. If the loophole can be closed, the system would be more beneficial. __________________ I love that song, let's turn the music up! Smilies is not my 1st Language

07-05-2004, 08:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ginger commander bun-bun Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 10,169	Your welcome, that is my fear the vote tampering, I hope that posting this will hepl even if it's just a little bit. :D __________________ don't you be wastin' all your money on syrup and honey because i'm sweet enough Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.

07-05-2004, 11:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ginger commander bun-bun Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 10,169	I know what you mean :D __________________ don't you be wastin' all your money on syrup and honey because i'm sweet enough Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.

07-08-2004, 07:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sophie Teen Dancer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wherever I go, there I am! Posts: 459	how would it work? im confused - would it be like a receipt to keep at home or would it just spit it out and you'd walk it over and turn it in like normal? i thought that the benefits of using computerized voting was to ensure greater flexibility (bcs filling out the scantron circles things is such a pain in the shorts if you have to erase one you can ruin the whole darn ballot and have to start over) and greater accuracy (bcs the hole punch things r so questionable... can we say chad?)... right??? Not to mention saving trees....??? :Thinking Couldn't the computer just give us a confirmation number (like you get when you pay your bills online) or something for us to write down and keep that would serve the same purpose w/o having to waste more paper? :dontknow: sorry if these r stupid questions - im just curious....

07-05-2004, 08:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,019 Blog Entries: 2	Good idea, Gin. Yep, how could they do a recount??!!!?? I take care of about 200+ computers and I don't trust them as far as I can regularly throw them. It would just give the hackers a new project.:(

07-05-2004, 08:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,019 Blog Entries: 2	I don't even trust online petitions!! jokes!

07-09-2004, 12:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
Ginger commander bun-bun Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 10,169	No those aren't stupid questions Sophie :D their good ones, and I do remember the Chad's. I'm from Florida computer voting could be wonderful thing but their are so many people that can change your vote( computer experts working for the government) to benefit another candidate their is so much back stabbing right now. it would be awesome to be able to have a printed receipt from electronic voting but that is not happening at the moment. __________________ don't you be wastin' all your money on syrup and honey because i'm sweet enough Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.

07-09-2004, 08:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sophie Teen Dancer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wherever I go, there I am! Posts: 459	oh, okay, thanks - that makes sense... hopefully there will be enough support to do somthing about this.... now, if we can just get everyone to actually GO to the polls and vote!!! :wall::duhh:

07-10-2004, 02:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ginger commander bun-bun Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 10,169	I know, a lot of people are saying I don't like who is running. So now their saying I'm not voting ugg I just want to hit them (get a reality check) I tell them yes go vote, just don't vote the the crazy man. __________________ don't you be wastin' all your money on syrup and honey because i'm sweet enough Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.

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