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Old 02-02-2006, 04:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What's Up Chicken Dance Enthusiasts, I Was Wondering About Something. To The Best Of M Understanding, Or From What I've Been Taught, It Is Improper For Chicken Dancers To Wear Eagle Feathers, Due To The Fact That You Dance Backwards And In Circle. Now I'm Pretty Sure This Will Differ From Nation To Nation, So Pour On The Facts Folks, Just Want To Hear Your Opinions And Ways.

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Old 02-02-2006, 09:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What's up Dan!
You know I'm glad you posted this question, because it came up while we were in NC a few weeks ago. I've been wondering the same thing myself. This is a matter that I think really needs to be addressed because there are more and more guys in the south that are wanting to chicken dance. In way, like Dan said any and all information is greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-03-2006, 10:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Not to get ahead of ourselves....

Does anybody "down south" know the meaning behind the chicken dance, where it originated, why and when it was danced, what specific articles that are worn mean or the meaning behind the songs?
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Old 02-08-2006, 07:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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good good question!!!! i know it....but you "down south" natives have to give a answer!!!
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Just My $.02 worth. First off I do not do this style, but have seen 1 chicken dancer in the area, a soldier stationed at Ft. Bragg. It is a really awesome style and I can see why people are interested in it. Just as all styles, i.e. Jingle, Straight, N. Trad, etc. all started out specific to one area or nation with certain restricted items, it seems, at least from what I've read on this site and from people I've talked too, that once introduced ont he powwow circut, it will be copied and duplicated. Next thing you know people who have no idea on the significance ar edoing the dance.

Anyway that's my $.02. I am posting 'cause I wan to ge tthe dailey updates.
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Old 02-08-2006, 11:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Just My $.02 worth. First off I do not do this style, but have seen 1 chicken dancer in the area, a soldier stationed at Ft. Bragg. It is a really awesome style and I can see why people are interested in it. Just as all styles, i.e. Jingle, Straight, N. Trad, etc. all started out specific to one area or nation with certain restricted items, it seems, at least from what I've read on this site and from people I've talked too, that once introduced ont he powwow circut, it will be copied and duplicated. Next thing you know people who have no idea on the significance ar edoing the dance.

Anyway that's my $.02. I am posting 'cause I wan to ge tthe dailey updates.
This is SOOOOO quotable in any forum of specific dance.

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Old 02-09-2006, 09:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I didn't know there were prairie chickens in Alabama & further eastward. I learn something new everyday.

I live around the great lakes. None here.
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Old 02-09-2006, 10:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Just My $.02 worth. First off I do not do this style, but have seen 1 chicken dancer in the area, a soldier stationed at Ft. Bragg. It is a really awesome style and I can see why people are interested in it. Just as all styles, i.e. Jingle, Straight, N. Trad, etc. all started out specific to one area or nation with certain restricted items, it seems, at least from what I've read on this site and from people I've talked too, that once introduced ont he powwow circut, it will be copied and duplicated. Next thing you know people who have no idea on the significance are doing the dance.

Anyway that's my $.02. I am posting 'cause I wan to get the dailey updates.

Whats the difference between white people who powwow and do the dance wrong or an indian that powwows and does it wrong?

When some1 is doing the dance wrong and some1 in a society comes to that person and tells them they r doing it wrong and they dont want to listen, whats the next step?

what happens if the person who taught them lied about their "dance credentials...

are they well within their rights to take away their outfit? what happens next?

i mean how can u dance a dance, not know the meaning, and not know the songs?
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Old 02-09-2006, 09:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Not to get ahead of ourselves....

Does anybody "down south" know the meaning behind the chicken dance, where it originated, why and when it was danced, what specific articles that are worn mean or the meaning behind the songs?
You're all "down south" from here.

Folks will talk all day here if they know somthing about thier own style, but folks are real closed mouthed on this prairie chicken forum. Beadwork is sacred to my folks, and there are beadwork how-to's on this site. There's a huge post on how to make fancy war dance bustles - contemporary, but cited as an example of how folks talk a lot if they know somthing. It makes me think of someone who is trying to bull**** me. I'm not saying that no one here knows anything, I think at least a couple of folks do - but some of you are playing games i think.

Now, that said, I've seen round bustle dancers with eagle feathers, but no honest-to-goodness prairie chicken dancers as of today. I have seen a boatload of peahen feathers lately though.

This isn't a for sure yes or no kind of answer, but one thing that that comes to mind is those fancy war dancers with the double eagle bustles. They spin and go backwards and spin again going counter-clockwise all day long. No one seems to mind. Maybe it's not so much the direction of the dancing as it is the dance.

I think maybe you folks who want to know about this dance are going to have do some traveling. See you in Standoff.

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Old 02-09-2006, 09:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I didn't know there were prairie chickens in Alabama & further eastward. I learn something new everyday.

I live around the great lakes. None here.
There are Prairie Chickens present in Minnesota and Wisconsin - both are Great Lakes States in the Great Lakes Region.

One has yet to be seen in Michigan.
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Old 02-10-2006, 09:34 AM   #11 (permalink)
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finally soem sort of answer

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You're all "down south" from here.

Folks will talk all day here if they know somthing about thier own style, but folks are real closed mouthed on this prairie chicken forum. Beadwork is sacred to my folks, and there are beadwork how-to's on this site. There's a huge post on how to make fancy war dance bustles - contemporary, but cited as an example of how folks talk a lot if they know somthing. It makes me think of someone who is trying to bull**** me. I'm not saying that no one here knows anything, I think at least a couple of folks do - but some of you are playing games i think.

Now, that said, I've seen round bustle dancers with eagle feathers, but no honest-to-goodness prairie chicken dancers as of today. I have seen a boatload of peahen feathers lately though.

This isn't a for sure yes or no kind of answer, but one thing that that comes to mind is those fancy war dancers with the double eagle bustles. They spin and go backwards and spin again going counter-clockwise all day long. No one seems to mind. Maybe it's not so much the direction of the dancing as it is the dance.

I think maybe you folks who want to know about this dance are going to have do some traveling. See you in Standoff.
sookout sh'nob, thank you!! some sort of response to the question. that's why i posted this question to get a simple answer and someone finally gave me one, well not an answer. i posted is because i know fancy dancers where full eagle bustles and spin everydirection possible do cart wheels and all sorts of other moves, that's why i asked....once again sookout sh'nob thank you
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Old 02-10-2006, 01:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think maybe you folks who want to know about this dance are going to have do some traveling. See you in Standoff.

Sookout,

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Good advice!

That is where I get a lot of my info!
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