Chokers

paintedsun22 · 11-11-2006, 01:31 PM

Okay, so how do you make the beaded or sequinned chokers, like for jingle or fancy shawl dancers? pics would be great!

Blackbear · 11-21-2006, 05:33 AM

I'm pretty sure that the beaded ones are usually loomed, and the sequined ones are done with a backing... I don't make them so I can't really tell you that much.. but if you know how to do loomwork, then you can make them... and theres' a thread somewhere on how do do the sequin work.. I think it's still stickied.

veritasxl · 11-28-2006, 07:12 PM

I agree with Blackbear at lot are done on looms and are beaded with small bugle beads for the main section. There's a good reference book.written by an Ndn..."Beads to buckskin". she has a book that deals with chokers/earrings among her other books. She has lots of designs that she shares and her instructions are easy to follow. She shows you how to build and incorporate your own design.

Her name is Peggy Sue Henry, she has 11 book, volume 4 address chokers/earrings. She covers other stitches like the brick stitch, great for your matching earrings. If you buy her books from Oglala Lakota College you will pay the right price, a lot of collectors hike up the price on her books, cause I don't think they are still being printed. But Oglala college has them and buying direct from them helps the college students.

Here's their website hope it help

www.OLC.EDU

subeeds · 11-28-2006, 11:05 PM

I think looming is best since I'm a bloomin' loomin' fool!! (Sorry)LOL!! If you do loom one, check out www.rubysbeadwork.com for her beaded bead and loop closures. It's a free tute and I am hooked on them for the stuff I make. You can use 1 if the piece is light or however many you need to balance the weight of the choker. They are super easy to do and since I started using those, I just like the look better on the jewelry I make.

veritasxl · 12-01-2006, 02:22 PM

Good tip Subeeds,

I checked out the site, the collars are very similar to Chahta collars we wear over our dresses.

V

subeeds · 12-01-2006, 08:02 PM

I forgot to mention another reason I like those beaded bead ad loop closures is that they are less likely to slip loose like a hook or toggle closure.

superndngyrl · 12-07-2006, 08:15 PM

I didn't loom mine. Here's a pic.

I just made it applique style.

**eap7** · 12-08-2006, 02:46 PM

My choker for my older bead set is loom beaded, and its the only thing I ever made on a loom because I didn't like it! I kept messing it up...so...no more for me. But I just loom beaded that and then backed it with foamy board to make it a little stiffer and closed it with a tie.

The other one I also applique beaded and sewed rhinestones on, just like any other applique piece. I didn't back it with anything hard, just sewed leather on the back and used 2 hook and eye closures. I'm making a new one right now and I'm going to do the same- without backing- because i think the foamy board backing one makes me sweat! I think because the foam is plastic or something. Anyway as you can tell, you can do it different ways, basically whatever you like. Good luck!

paintedsun22 · 12-09-2006, 02:50 PM

thanks guys. so how do you measure how long it should be? and how to you add a drop for like a fancy shawl or jingle dress?

subeeds · 12-10-2006, 05:35 PM

when I measure a choker for me, I put a string or whatever around my neck, then measure that and I add an inch, because I don''t like things real tight to my neck. Remember that the closure will also add to the lenght. to add a drop to a loomed choker, figure where you want it to be, weave the thread back to that point and coming out the bottom bead, add the drop, weave thread back through and finish it however you finish your work-everybody finishes differet. Superndngyrl, that's a beautiful choker!! One day, I want to learn the applique way of beading-along with a thousand other bead things!LOL!

paintedsun22 · 01-07-2007, 07:39 PM

should I edge bead it, or would it hurt my neck?

superndngyrl · 01-09-2007, 06:50 PM

I made my choker really wide and I think if I edge beaded it, it would have hurt. haha so I didn't. But if you make it smaller than edge beading would be a nice touch. But really its up to you because you don't really notice that much. Cuz of your hair and hair ties etc.

paintedsun22 · 01-10-2007, 08:15 PM

cool. thanks.

BeadMan · 01-11-2007, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subeeds

...I'm a bloomin' loomin' fool!!....

superndngyrl · 01-11-2007, 01:39 PM

Oh yea... someone mentioned clasps to use.

I seen these on an informercial, has anybody tried them out?
https://www.cleverclasp.com

11-11-2006, 01:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
paintedsun22 Dancer 4 Life!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: If you find me, keep me here until I get back. Posts: 202	Chokers Okay, so how do you make the beaded or sequinned chokers, like for jingle or fancy shawl dancers? pics would be great!

11-21-2006, 05:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,622	I'm pretty sure that the beaded ones are usually loomed, and the sequined ones are done with a backing... I don't make them so I can't really tell you that much.. but if you know how to do loomwork, then you can make them... and theres' a thread somewhere on how do do the sequin work.. I think it's still stickied. __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

11-28-2006, 07:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
veritasxl Chahta Apokni Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Burque Posts: 243	chokers I agree with Blackbear at lot are done on looms and are beaded with small bugle beads for the main section. There's a good reference book.written by an Ndn..."Beads to buckskin". she has a book that deals with chokers/earrings among her other books. She has lots of designs that she shares and her instructions are easy to follow. She shows you how to build and incorporate your own design. Her name is Peggy Sue Henry, she has 11 book, volume 4 address chokers/earrings. She covers other stitches like the brick stitch, great for your matching earrings. If you buy her books from Oglala Lakota College you will pay the right price, a lot of collectors hike up the price on her books, cause I don't think they are still being printed. But Oglala college has them and buying direct from them helps the college students. Here's their website hope it help www.OLC.EDU __________________ Civilzation has been thrust upon me..and it has not added one whit to my love for truth, honesty, and generosity Chief Luther Standing Bear

12-01-2006, 02:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
veritasxl Chahta Apokni Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Burque Posts: 243	Beading with Ruby Good tip Subeeds, I checked out the site, the collars are very similar to Chahta collars we wear over our dresses. V __________________ Civilzation has been thrust upon me..and it has not added one whit to my love for truth, honesty, and generosity Chief Luther Standing Bear

11-28-2006, 11:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
subeeds subeeds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Georgia Posts: 272	I think looming is best since I'm a bloomin' loomin' fool!! (Sorry)LOL!! If you do loom one, check out www.rubysbeadwork.com for her beaded bead and loop closures. It's a free tute and I am hooked on them for the stuff I make. You can use 1 if the piece is light or however many you need to balance the weight of the choker. They are super easy to do and since I started using those, I just like the look better on the jewelry I make.

12-01-2006, 08:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
subeeds subeeds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Georgia Posts: 272	I forgot to mention another reason I like those beaded bead ad loop closures is that they are less likely to slip loose like a hook or toggle closure.

12-07-2006, 08:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
superndngyrl photo fun Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in front of the computer Posts: 4,295	I didn't loom mine. Here's a pic. I just made it applique style.

12-08-2006, 02:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
eap7 ~Erica~ Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 1,239 Blog Entries: 5	My choker for my older bead set is loom beaded, and its the only thing I ever made on a loom because I didn't like it! I kept messing it up...so...no more for me. But I just loom beaded that and then backed it with foamy board to make it a little stiffer and closed it with a tie. The other one I also applique beaded and sewed rhinestones on, just like any other applique piece. I didn't back it with anything hard, just sewed leather on the back and used 2 hook and eye closures. I'm making a new one right now and I'm going to do the same- without backing- because i think the foamy board backing one makes me sweat! I think because the foam is plastic or something. Anyway as you can tell, you can do it different ways, basically whatever you like. Good luck!

12-09-2006, 02:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
paintedsun22 Dancer 4 Life!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: If you find me, keep me here until I get back. Posts: 202	thanks guys. so how do you measure how long it should be? and how to you add a drop for like a fancy shawl or jingle dress?

12-10-2006, 05:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
subeeds subeeds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southern Georgia Posts: 272	when I measure a choker for me, I put a string or whatever around my neck, then measure that and I add an inch, because I don''t like things real tight to my neck. Remember that the closure will also add to the lenght. to add a drop to a loomed choker, figure where you want it to be, weave the thread back to that point and coming out the bottom bead, add the drop, weave thread back through and finish it however you finish your work-everybody finishes differet. Superndngyrl, that's a beautiful choker!! One day, I want to learn the applique way of beading-along with a thousand other bead things!LOL!

01-07-2007, 07:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
paintedsun22 Dancer 4 Life!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: If you find me, keep me here until I get back. Posts: 202	should I edge bead it, or would it hurt my neck?

01-09-2007, 06:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
superndngyrl photo fun Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in front of the computer Posts: 4,295	I made my choker really wide and I think if I edge beaded it, it would have hurt. haha so I didn't. But if you make it smaller than edge beading would be a nice touch. But really its up to you because you don't really notice that much. Cuz of your hair and hair ties etc.

01-10-2007, 08:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
paintedsun22 Dancer 4 Life!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: If you find me, keep me here until I get back. Posts: 202	cool. thanks.

01-11-2007, 01:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
superndngyrl photo fun Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in front of the computer Posts: 4,295	Oh yea... someone mentioned clasps to use. I seen these on an informercial, has anybody tried them out? https://www.cleverclasp.com

01-11-2007, 05:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
trob226 Senior Dancer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Where my hat is Posts: 698