beaded suspenders???

n8ivegrl49 · 08-07-2006, 12:53 AM

hello my grandpa would like to have a pair of beaded suspenders but im really not sure how to go about beading them because they strecth!!! has anyone beaded suspenders before or does anyone have any suggestions??? should i use regular beading thread......elastic.........im just not sure so if any one has any sugestions please id be most thankful!!
~v~

Mato Winyan · 08-07-2006, 01:12 AM

I haven't seen that one yet...... not with elastic. Hmmmmm.... probably what I would do would cover them with a material or buckskin casing where the elastic has free movement thru it. I would bead on it then. Good luck.

**WocusWoman** · 08-07-2006, 02:54 AM

No, you buy the suspenders that have the solid leather front already, they are only stretch on the back 3/4ths or so of the total length. I would suggest either beading directly on the solid part OR beading a sold part to attach to that on top. Beading indian tanned hide and then attaching would look very nice; then edge it after it has been married to the suspenders.

between2worlds · 08-07-2006, 11:07 AM

Saw a "cheapie" made-in-taiwan beaded belt in the women's dept about 2 weeks ago. The warp "threads" were 1/8" black elastic thread, the weft threads were fishing line (?) or some sort of clear nylon type thread 1/8"... the belt was 2 inches wide and the beads were at least 8's and may have been 6's... they were big. The usual "this is an ndn design" in 2 colors:
--<>--<>--<>-- .

The weft thread was doubled one on each side of the warp but it wasn't like regular loom beading where you go through the beads, push them up through the warp and then go and run the thread back through on the other side. This was two seperate threads going in the same direction through the bead, one on each side of the warp. The threads switched around the last warp thread so that the bottom one became the top thread and vice versa. It stretched about 30% of it's length and the beads repositioned themselves easily.

I know, I know ... I'm easily amused. Sitting in an aisle at Target stretching a fake ndn beaded belt repeatedly whilst peering at it going... how dey do dat *grin*

We were looking at it because ppl who are wheelies (or ppl who have to sit all the time) need belts that are elasticated or else you end up feeling cut in two in the middle. I'm going to try to adapt something like that for a belt I'm making... but I plan on doing regular beading on the right and left fronts/sides and join them with an elastic bead section in the back.

'twil be an interesting experiment me thinks.

BeadMan · 08-07-2006, 08:19 PM

Mato is absolutely correct on this one. It is how I make dress belts as well. I have done both belts and suspenders and I have seen several in Oklahoma and New Mexico. I have done all my dress belts and suspenders with loom beadwork. You make a tube out of plain cotton cloth (colores can compliment the beadwork) then run the belt or suspenders through it. It should fit tightly. On suspenders, you have to secure it at the top somehow. I always sew it. If the belt or suspenders wear out the beadwork can be easily put onto another one.

Blackbear · 08-07-2006, 09:39 PM

B2W....you know those elastic loomed beaded headbands that were popular in the 60's and 70's? My mom had one but she said it was her BELT! That woman was so tiny she could slip it up over her hips to her waist!!!!!

between2worlds · 08-07-2006, 09:46 PM

Yeah, I 'member them BB... made more than one or two... along with those groooovy leather sash belts with the fringe.

n8ivegrl49 · 08-09-2006, 02:06 PM

guys thanks for all the imput!! i really appreciate it!! im gonna get to beading now ill let cha know how things go

featherz1 · 08-18-2006, 12:42 AM

maybe a loose peyote stitch would work. bead around them and leave a ssmall gap around them so when they stretch it would only be between the beads..

08-07-2006, 12:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
n8ivegrl49 >>-n8ive-babe->> Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indian Country Posts: 137	beaded suspenders??? hello my grandpa would like to have a pair of beaded suspenders but im really not sure how to go about beading them because they strecth!!! has anyone beaded suspenders before or does anyone have any suggestions??? should i use regular beading thread......elastic.........im just not sure so if any one has any sugestions please id be most thankful!! ~v~ __________________ When life gives you a hundred reasons to cry, show life you have a thousand reasons to smile

08-07-2006, 01:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mato Winyan Gangster of Love Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,497 Blog Entries: 4	I haven't seen that one yet...... not with elastic. Hmmmmm.... probably what I would do would cover them with a material or buckskin casing where the elastic has free movement thru it. I would bead on it then. Good luck. __________________ "We see it as a desecration not only of a mountain but of our way of life. This is a genocidal issue to us. If they kill this mountain, they kill our way of life." ~Debra White Plume

08-07-2006, 09:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,622	B2W....you know those elastic loomed beaded headbands that were popular in the 60's and 70's? My mom had one but she said it was her BELT! That woman was so tiny she could slip it up over her hips to her waist!!!!! __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

08-09-2006, 02:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
n8ivegrl49 >>-n8ive-babe->> Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indian Country Posts: 137	wow...... guys thanks for all the imput!! i really appreciate it!! im gonna get to beading now ill let cha know how things go __________________ When life gives you a hundred reasons to cry, show life you have a thousand reasons to smile

08-18-2006, 12:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
featherz1 featherz1 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ldf Posts: 1	a suggestion maybe a loose peyote stitch would work. bead around them and leave a ssmall gap around them so when they stretch it would only be between the beads.. __________________

08-07-2006, 02:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
WocusWoman N8tiffUmatillaMAMA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Interior Alaska Posts: 2,737	No, you buy the suspenders that have the solid leather front already, they are only stretch on the back 3/4ths or so of the total length. I would suggest either beading directly on the solid part OR beading a sold part to attach to that on top. Beading indian tanned hide and then attaching would look very nice; then edge it after it has been married to the suspenders.

08-07-2006, 11:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
between2worlds Patrick Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Riverdale, MD Posts: 2,739	Saw a "cheapie" made-in-taiwan beaded belt in the women's dept about 2 weeks ago. The warp "threads" were 1/8" black elastic thread, the weft threads were fishing line (?) or some sort of clear nylon type thread 1/8"... the belt was 2 inches wide and the beads were at least 8's and may have been 6's... they were big. The usual "this is an ndn design" in 2 colors: --<>--<>--<>-- . The weft thread was doubled one on each side of the warp but it wasn't like regular loom beading where you go through the beads, push them up through the warp and then go and run the thread back through on the other side. This was two seperate threads going in the same direction through the bead, one on each side of the warp. The threads switched around the last warp thread so that the bottom one became the top thread and vice versa. It stretched about 30% of it's length and the beads repositioned themselves easily. I know, I know ... I'm easily amused. Sitting in an aisle at Target stretching a fake ndn beaded belt repeatedly whilst peering at it going... how dey do dat grin We were looking at it because ppl who are wheelies (or ppl who have to sit all the time) need belts that are elasticated or else you end up feeling cut in two in the middle. I'm going to try to adapt something like that for a belt I'm making... but I plan on doing regular beading on the right and left fronts/sides and join them with an elastic bead section in the back. 'twil be an interesting experiment me thinks.

08-07-2006, 08:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
BeadMan Beadworker Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Northeast Iowa Posts: 410	Mato is absolutely correct on this one. It is how I make dress belts as well. I have done both belts and suspenders and I have seen several in Oklahoma and New Mexico. I have done all my dress belts and suspenders with loom beadwork. You make a tube out of plain cotton cloth (colores can compliment the beadwork) then run the belt or suspenders through it. It should fit tightly. On suspenders, you have to secure it at the top somehow. I always sew it. If the belt or suspenders wear out the beadwork can be easily put onto another one.

08-07-2006, 09:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
between2worlds Patrick Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Riverdale, MD Posts: 2,739	Yeah, I 'member them BB... made more than one or two... along with those groooovy leather sash belts with the fringe.

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