Question on Northern Traditional Beadwork

NCheyGirl21 · 04-28-2006, 10:52 AM

I have a couple questions on Mens Northern Traditional Beadwork. Soon as I get done with my set of beadwork that I been working on I am going to be starting on my guys beadwork and i've never done Northern Traditional before.

So my question is what comes in a set of beadwork? and my other question is what stitch should I use? I been working with lazy and then I been doing alot of loom stuff lately.

Blackbear · 04-29-2006, 07:58 AM

Would'nt he know the answer if he's a northern traditional dancer? Or is it supposed to be a surprise of sorts?

NCheyGirl21 · 04-29-2006, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbear

Would'nt he know the answer if he's a northern traditional dancer? Or is it supposed to be a surprise of sorts?

He hasn't danced in years because he was in the military and didn't get out till 2004 and plus the stuff he had before somebody made him and now he doesn't have it. So now he's trying to get back into the swing of it.

OLChemist · 04-30-2006, 01:17 PM

There is a wide range of stylistic variations of northern traditional regalia, rooted both in personal artistic vision and tribal style. Most outfits have a beaded apron, moccs, and cuffs. Some also have one or more of the following: side tabs, a vest, roach "crowns," rosettes, bags, and knee and arm bands. Lane stitch and applique are the most commonly seen techniques.

Consultation with family and community are helpful for learning what is appropriate. Some types of men's regalia belong to certain families, nations, or societies. I'd advise asking some one knowledgable about your husband's/family's ways if in doubt.

Chelseyrosebutterfly · 05-12-2006, 03:30 PM

If you are starting out on the vest you should tack the beads but if you want you can lazy stitch. I think things like the vest and the drops on the side should be tacked. because they do little movement so there not so stiff when he dances.

Yeah but thats that!!! My mom made a mens traditional outfit I think she tacked it down wait hold on...Yeah she did nut yeah just thought I put my two cents in!!!

skoolgyrl_2004 · 08-14-2006, 04:38 PM

Hey, with my man's northern tradish outfit, I beaded him a vest, cuffs, side drops, choker with a beaded design hanging from it, and a pair of mocc's. That was it. He told me what he wanted, and I finished it.

When I was done with all of this, I made his pants, shirts, and numerous amounts of new mocc's. And still yet to bead him a roach spreader and a staff stick.

His outfit has been done for years, I'm beading my own right now.

good luck with yours for him

skoolgyrl_2004 · 08-14-2006, 04:44 PM

I think it is up to you if you wanna do lazy stitch or tack it down. With my man, his first outfit is all tacked down. I plan on using a tacked down design and the rest lazy stitch for his next one. Either way, he will always want to wear something new. It would be faster to do lazy stitch, so you can get on with your life.......hehe and he'll be happy it's done too!!!

All of the really good dancer's don't necessarily have their beadwork all tacked down, some are lazy stitch and it still looks really nice.

beadingmadness · 09-19-2006, 09:58 PM

, hello !!
most Northern Men have bold Floral designs, snake like vines with berries and rounded flowers, simple but beautiful all the same..
if i am right.

between2worlds · 09-19-2006, 10:42 PM

Someone was looking for examples of Anishnaabek regalia and since I've been collecting pictures for a long time I organized a sampling, wrote out some of what I had been taught and my wife, Miika, coded me up a nice website for it.

You can find it here:

http://patrick.moonwolf.net/104.0.html

wyo_rose · 09-20-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by between2worlds

Someone was looking for examples of Anishnaabek regalia and since I've been collecting pictures for a long time I organized a sampling, wrote out some of what I had been taught and my wife, Miika, coded me up a nice website for it.

You can find it here:

http://patrick.moonwolf.net/104.0.html

I like your website. But I really think you need a heading and a pic on the front page. I got there and was wondering where I was. lol

between2worlds · 09-20-2006, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wyo_rose

I like your website. But I really think you need a heading and a pic on the front page. I got there and was wondering where I was. lol

*grin* dat's cuz I let ya in the side door. The front door is ober der *points wif lips* ~~~~~> http://patrick.moonwolf.net/

wyo_rose · 09-20-2006, 01:31 PM

Oh...duh!!! And I love your Mad Budgie pic!! What did you do to tee him off? Or is that you???

between2worlds · 09-20-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wyo_rose

Oh...duh!!! And I love your Mad Budgie pic!! What did you do to tee him off? Or is that you???

I wish! Then I wouldn't be constantly slipping into FBI (fully broke ndn) mode all the time!

Here's the story behind the pix tho -

http://www.missico.com/personal/tidb...d_bluebird.htm

04-28-2006, 10:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
NCheyGirl21 Wife To A Marine Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 675 Blog Entries: 2	Question on Northern Traditional Beadwork I have a couple questions on Mens Northern Traditional Beadwork. Soon as I get done with my set of beadwork that I been working on I am going to be starting on my guys beadwork and i've never done Northern Traditional before. So my question is what comes in a set of beadwork? and my other question is what stitch should I use? I been working with lazy and then I been doing alot of loom stuff lately.

04-29-2006, 07:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
Blackbear Space Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,618	Would'nt he know the answer if he's a northern traditional dancer? Or is it supposed to be a surprise of sorts? __________________ Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.

08-14-2006, 04:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
skoolgyrl_2004 skoolgyrl_2004 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 51	I beaded my man's northern tradish outfit. Hey, with my man's northern tradish outfit, I beaded him a vest, cuffs, side drops, choker with a beaded design hanging from it, and a pair of mocc's. That was it. He told me what he wanted, and I finished it. When I was done with all of this, I made his pants, shirts, and numerous amounts of new mocc's. And still yet to bead him a roach spreader and a staff stick. His outfit has been done for years, I'm beading my own right now. good luck with yours for him __________________ YOU CAN ONLY TAKE SOOO MUCH!!!! THEN IT'S TIME TO LET GO. . .:confused_

08-14-2006, 04:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
skoolgyrl_2004 skoolgyrl_2004 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 51	One more opinion I think it is up to you if you wanna do lazy stitch or tack it down. With my man, his first outfit is all tacked down. I plan on using a tacked down design and the rest lazy stitch for his next one. Either way, he will always want to wear something new. It would be faster to do lazy stitch, so you can get on with your life.......hehe and he'll be happy it's done too!!! All of the really good dancer's don't necessarily have their beadwork all tacked down, some are lazy stitch and it still looks really nice. __________________ YOU CAN ONLY TAKE SOOO MUCH!!!! THEN IT'S TIME TO LET GO. . .:confused_

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04-30-2006, 01:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
OLChemist Pow Wow Committee Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 742	There is a wide range of stylistic variations of northern traditional regalia, rooted both in personal artistic vision and tribal style. Most outfits have a beaded apron, moccs, and cuffs. Some also have one or more of the following: side tabs, a vest, roach "crowns," rosettes, bags, and knee and arm bands. Lane stitch and applique are the most commonly seen techniques. Consultation with family and community are helpful for learning what is appropriate. Some types of men's regalia belong to certain families, nations, or societies. I'd advise asking some one knowledgable about your husband's/family's ways if in doubt.

05-12-2006, 03:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chelseyrosebutterfly Junior Dancer Join Date: May 2006 Location: CANADA Posts: 239	If you are starting out on the vest you should tack the beads but if you want you can lazy stitch. I think things like the vest and the drops on the side should be tacked. because they do little movement so there not so stiff when he dances. Yeah but thats that!!! My mom made a mens traditional outfit I think she tacked it down wait hold on...Yeah she did nut yeah just thought I put my two cents in!!!

09-19-2006, 09:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
beadingmadness Tiny Tot Dancer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northern Minnesota Posts: 25	, hello !! most Northern Men have bold Floral designs, snake like vines with berries and rounded flowers, simple but beautiful all the same.. if i am right.

09-19-2006, 10:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
between2worlds Patrick Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Riverdale, MD Posts: 2,729	Someone was looking for examples of Anishnaabek regalia and since I've been collecting pictures for a long time I organized a sampling, wrote out some of what I had been taught and my wife, Miika, coded me up a nice website for it. You can find it here: http://patrick.moonwolf.net/104.0.html

09-20-2006, 01:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
wyo_rose Teenah's Too Cool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Washakie Posts: 8,019 Blog Entries: 2	Oh...duh!!! And I love your Mad Budgie pic!! What did you do to tee him off? Or is that you???

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